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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.[/quote]

When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.[/quote]
It stinks, but women and girls have to think through how they'd react/ what length they are willing to go to to avoid being moved to a second location. I took a self defense class taught by police officers and they told the class 100% run, if you can, or fight to avoid being moved to another location. These women, and the one who was raped especially, are lucky to be alive. When a predator moves you, the risk of being murdered rises exponentially. I would rather die fighting than live with the aftermath of rape.[/quote]

This thread is ridiculous and upsetting.[b] As a women who has actually experienced an attempted stranger rape [/b]you and the pp have NO IDEA how you would react in this situation. The fact that the pp is so confident this wouldn’t have happened to her because of her ability to “fight back” is incredibly naive but I know it gives her comfort at night. It is naive because you truly can’t know how your brain and body will react. The strength of a prepared and determined man who is much physically larger than you is unfortunately quite a situation to contend with when completely caught off guard as a women.

Anyway I’m glad it gives you comfort I guess but the things you are saying to make yourself feel better hurt women in the end because it implies we have more control than we really do. [/quote]
He didn't rape you. How did you survive? I suspect it involved running, fighting and/or yelling for and receiving assistance. I will fight until my last breath.[/quote]

I can’t believe you’re fighting with me on this. Why are you assuming the women in this news story didn’t do those things? I’m truly confused. The reason I didn’t end up with a full on rape was mostly luck and I am not naive enough to recognize that but someone who has the gall to respond like that to someone who has actually experienced this is not someone I care to share my story with. it is also irrelevant because each situation is unique.

Your logical brain is not the same as your fight flight freeze brain. Please understand this. Your logical brain might say “I would rather be dead than deal with true aftermath of rape” That is all fine and well. It basically matters zilch when your fight flight freeze brain comes on and you are assessing a situation in .03 seconds. Your fight flight freeze brain might be pretty into protecting your life. And that may look differently than you expect. Have a little self reflection that you can’t be so black and white about something that hasn’t happened to you. Of course fighting is a piece of this puzzle but I am telling you, in that moment your brain is figuring out a complex equation and your ability to breathe and remain on this earth will usually be your brains first order of operations and it won’t be within your control necessarily. Lizard brain people.

Of course fight. No one is saying not to fight. Just saying have a little awareness that these situations aren’t like a movies and it might not be exactly like you imagine it in your head so approach with empathy first always and never judge a woman for how you perceive she reacted based on a news story. Come on. [/quote]

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