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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When I park my car on the street overnight, with valuables in plain sight and the doors unlocked and those items get stolen, I blame the thief.[/quote]

Correct. The thief stole the stuff. No thief, no theft.[/quote]

There are thieves. There will always be thieves. Why on earth would you leave your valuables in plain sight, in an unlocked car, when you know someone will steal them?  That’s just stupid. [/quote]

So don't do it. [/quote]

I don’t. That’s the point. And I don’t get robbed when I bring my stuff inside. But if I left my stuff outside, in plain sight, knowing there are thieves, then c’mon - I’m either being deliberately obtuse or I’m an idiot. [/quote]

And so therefore women should...what? Avoid being in public places, knowing there are rapists?[/quote]

Common sense precautions. Don’t run on an isolated trail alone after dark. Don’t get drunk and leave a party with someone you don’t know. Don’t ever take a drink from someone when you haven’t seen them pour the drink. Stuff like that. Will this prevent 100% of all rapes?  No. Will someone randomly get raped in broad daylight while walking down the street?  Maybe. But I think throwing common sense precautions out the window makes no sense. 
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These were two women together, sober, in broad daylight. [/quote]

That’s what I said in my post. It won’t thwart all rapes. They’re still going to happen. But I will do everything I can to lessen the chances. [/quote]

Two women together, sober, in broad daylight, so you ... advise women not to run on an isolated trail after dark, don't get drunk and leave a party with someone they don't know, etc. etc. Why?

I have done a lot of things women are told not to do lest someone rape them, and not been raped. Why? Because there was no potential rapist on the scene. That's the determining factor.[/quote]

I don’t want to argue. You can continue to do the things that I consider risky. I myself will not. [b]To each his own. [/b][/quote]

Exactly. Everyone makes the decisions and takes the risks they consider appropriate, and when Person A attacks Person B, we place the full blame where it belongs: on Person A. Instead of focusing on the things Person B coulda shoulda done.[/quote]

Correct.  Given the prevalence of rape/sexual assault (et cetera) it would be great to see it treated as the public health catastrophe that it is. [b] Teach boys and men not to rape.  Very simple![/quote][/b]

Because not realizing that it is unlawful, morally wrong and frankly despicable — that’s the problem.

Please. [/quote]

I have come to realize that people who trot out the whole “teach boys not to rape” thing are seriously lacking critical thinking skills (and likely brain cells as well).  It’s probably the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. [/quote]

Perhaps stupid when you are talking about this type of incident. But it is imperative to teach your sons about date rape.   Believe it or not, a lot of men think sex is consensual if they are dating someone. Or met someone who is flirting.  Teaching about consent is critical. Because in most sex assaults, the victim and perpetrator know each other. [/quote]

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