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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The biggest problem with a drop in church attendance and faith adherence is that we're collectively losing the sense that there's something greater than ourselves -- something positive that challenges us to elevate and better ourselves for the common good during the blink of our individual existence.[/quote]

I hope you realize that you are mentioning two different things:

“Something greater than ourselves “. I don’t know what that is or means.  I certainly see no evidence for that.  Or need.

“Something that challenges us to elevate ourselves “ which I think is what we refer to as “society “.  No need for anything supernatural.[/quote]

I agree and will add that I think that “Something greater than ourselves “ is God.  Yes, he's invisible, but if you believe in him, he's real.

As for “Something that challenges us to elevate ourselves “ it can be society or other real, not supernatural (i.e., imaginary) things.

Some people, though, really need to feel more consequential than they are as individuals, and God/religion/church helps them feel that way.[/quote]

Wow

[i]“Something greater than ourselves “ is God.  Yes, he's invisible, but[b] if you believe in him, he's real[/b].  [/i]

Does that go for anything that anyone believes? [/quote]

Sure.  But most people apply it only to God.  Can you think of any other being that people believe in that is invisible?
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Are you kidding?

Ghosts.

Angels, guardian or otherwise.

A large number of myths of other cultures

Not to mention the many mythical creatures that are not invisible, but hide from sight.

And of course there is the biggest question I have of all which is which of the 3000 or so documented God beliefs is the right one? If at least one person believes in each of them, does that make them all real?

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