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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/business/liberal-arts-stem-salaries.html

College is not trade school! What you make starting out isn’t very relevant. Think long-term.[/quote]
STEM majors aren’t in “trade school”.  :roll: They are as highly educated as their humanities peers and have as many options for flexible career shifts long term.

Also, while salaries may eventually equal out, that fast start allows STEM majors to pay off loans quickly, save to pay cash for a car, and save for a down payment on a house. Compound interest and early investment in the stock market is a wonderful thing for retirement.
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This!  The VAST MAJORITY of STEM kids are smarter/more intelligent than the VAST MAJORITY of English grads.  The only smart kids that WANT to get an English degree are those that love English or are getting an 'easy' degree for a high GPA as a stepping stone to grad school (medicine, law or MBA). The first group will score high on job/career satisfaction and the latter, of course, will make money compared to a CS grad that didn't go to grad school.  A third group will just coast on family connections.. Get into a decent school, study English or something equally fu fu, get a job with daddy's company or daddy's friend's and go up the ladder.  The skills needed for a high level job are less cerebral and more interpersonal.  I know someone who dropped out of college (English major) who 20 years later is the COO of a large company in another country (daddy's connections) and seems to be doing well (anecdotal, of course).  I also know many, many STEM grads that decided to get an MBA and are rubbing shoulders with the C Suite.

If you were to measure the collective wealth of ALL STEM undergrads and compare that to ALL liberal arts grads adjusted for college pedigree, I bet the the STEM grads would be way ahead of the LA peers at any age group.  Common sense.[/quote]

The fact you think this way shows you have no real idea how the business world works, and I say this as someone with a graduate STEM degree from HYPS. [/quote]

Lady, I AM in the 'business world'!  Saying 'I don't think so' is not really a strong argument.. but then, I don't expect any better from an liberal arts major.[/quote]

Good Lord. You can’t read at all. No wonder you struggle with English and in business.

I said plainly above that I have a graduate STEM degree (engineering) from HYPS. [/quote]
Your graduate degree is not your major. They were talking about your major, not your graduate degree. The fact that you missed this means it's [i]you[/i] who can't read. This isn't the pot calling the kettle black - it's the pot calling the fine china black. How embarrassing. [/quote]

[b]You are an idiot.[/b] You can’t get a graduate engineering degree from HYPS without an undergraduate STEM major.

I know, I know, that sort of logic is beyond you. Poor little thing. You are just outclassed. [/quote]

DP. There you go with your ad hominem attacks! The fact that you are defending an article that position that says English majors do better than Engineering/CS majors after x years of graduation by itself shows who the idiot is.  If that's still not clear, just stand in front of a reflective surface and you'll see them.  :lol:  :lol: [/quote]

You have no experience in the actual working world. That much is brilliantly clear.

And what you bolded isn’t an ad hominem attack. Go back and learn some English. You don’t know how to use the phrase “ad hominem” correctly. [/quote]

Not PP, but that is technically an ad hominem attack since you went after the poster instead of their argument. I think you might have stood to gain from majoring in English back in college.[/quote]

It’s not an ad hominem attack if it’s factual. [/quote]

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