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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People are conflating two things

1. Old process is flawed

Hence, it seems the assumption seems to be

2. New process is good/better

I would agree the old process is flawed but new process is even more flawed. I do like the idea of some percentage of kids from each HS getting into TJ. That is a good decision. Dropping recommendation letters is the most damaging of all.

We need reform, but in a thoughtful way. Not like the rushed half baked job they did in the middle of a pandemic.

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The new process is significantly better for the overall health of the community. It has massively reduced the incentive for participation in TJ-prep programs, and children who are denied admission are faring much better than they were previously because parents are blaming the new process instead of their children. The trauma that kids in my community would suffer in the old days was awful... the new process has saved many abusive parents from themselves in a way.[/quote]

Um.  Go to any prep place.  They still have TJ prep, but it is now geared towards essays and writing.  It is full of students as early as 5/6th grade.  New process just shifted everything over to writing.  The prep places list all the TJ admissions still.  Old process let in naturally gifted math students and some prepped students.  New process mostly results in naturally gifted writers and prepped students + experience factored students.  The problem is TJ is supposed to be a STEM school.  I mean why didn't they just add experience factors to the old system? [/quote]

Because SB members are idiots and think Asian students can't write. Guess what, Asian students excel in writing/reading and math so their own prejudice and stupidity resulted in moronic process.[/quote]

The process is race-blind and a clear improvement over the old one where people were buying the test.[/quote]

[b]At most any test-buying was for two years,[/b] unless they were bribing the test company directly, in which case it was for three years.
And they are still buying the test.[/quote]

The evidence is pretty clear that this took place at Curie for only the classes of 2023 and 2024. For each class, approximately 60-65% of the South Asian students in each class were captured by the published list of names that Curie put out on Facebook - as well as approximately 80% of the South Asian students from Loudoun County. This is why the presumption exists - fairly or unfairly - that South Asian students from Loudoun (the math suggests it's far less of an issue in the other jurisdictions) in each of these two classes essentially bought admission to TJ.

Curie would have done better, in spite of whatever custom exists in India, to protect the privacy of these students by not publishing their names.[/quote]

How is it buying admission, if this test was only used for the first round of admissions?  Did they look at this score in the second round as well?
Or is it being claimed that those who missed out on qualifying because of Curie/et al would have taken all these spots?[/quote]

The median and average scores of admitted students versus semifinalists, which the Admissions Office used to use as part of their "Reality Check" segment of their presentations every year, definitely suggest that the exam scores were used to select which semifinalists would be admitted. And, unsurprisingly, that same data suggested that the biggest separator between those offered and not offered was - you guessed it - the Quant-Q.
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It is also a fairly obvious consequence of Curie's artificial score inflation that - because semifinalist qualification was based on percentile scores rather than absolute scores - the cutoff score for semifinalist status was artificially high, and there were almost certainly students who would have qualified to be reviewed further who were eliminated from the process because so many parents paid thousands of dollars to inflate their child's scores. [/quote]

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