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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP just got me curious- for all of Boston and MA's reputation being full of good schools and colleges, why is its only state flagship UMass ranked so low? Did it used to be better in the past or was is always a mediocre??[/quote] UMB is far from the flagship campus. It is supposed to provide access to “real college” to working people.From am elitist pov it’s the weakest UMass campus but it has a mission of its own. UMass Amherst the flagshiip. It is a research university in the center of Massachusetts. [/quote] UMASS Dartmouth actually has the reputation for weakest state school (outside of the “states” like Worcester State and Fitchburg State, etc). UMASS Boston draws a lot of good students these days who want to be in the city but can’t afford or get into one of the “elites”. Dartmouth is still seen as an unserious party school. Lowell is STEM and the “states” are more technical or specific program oriented. If you want to be a cop, go to Fitchburg State. Teacher? Salem State. And so forth.[/quote] Interested in the experience of the kids who are serious students at UMASS Boston. Programs and course offerings seem extensive. There is an honors program. But is it hard to make friends/find your people and have a social community?[/quote] It’s a commuter school through and through. I wouldn’t expect any sort of community or peer group to come from the program. If your child is serious about attending, maybe they can live in Savin Hill or Southie where there are tons of young 20 something people. [/quote] Nope. It draws a lot of good students from local suburbs. Brand new dorms and D1 sports. I’m not sure of the personal experience there but we’ve had several kids from our well-regarded public go there te last few years and they are still there from what I know. so it can’t be purely non-traditional and commuter students.[/quote] UMB is D3. Anything else you say can’t be trusted if you can’t get that right. https://www.umb.edu/athletics/about#:~:text=UMass%20Boston%20is%20a%20Division,the%20National%20Collegiate%20Athletic%20Association.[/quote] Hey, you're right on that. I confused UMASS Boston and Stonehill with regards to their sports division. It happens. But, believe me, the other information I provided is correct. Just because you don't want to believe that it's an up and coming, well-regarded school within MA doesn't mean that it's not true.[/quote] UMB only has 1,100 dorm beds for an UG population of 15k. Housing is not guaranteed for any freshmen. I don't think there are plans to put more dorms in the old Bayside Expo space or the Boston Globe space (aka, "Seaport South" - gag me), is there? Perhaps within certain majors there is a sense of community that I am missing? Also, Mayor Wu is piloting a program where BPS graduates get their first year at no cost at UMB with support from BPS. While cool & something the school should've considered years ago, that doesn't tell me that students are currently choosing UMB over other options. I'm not here to knock UMB, believe me - I wish it had been a better option when I went to college 20 years ago - but to think UMB is anything but #3 of the 4 UMass schools just isn't true.[/quote]
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