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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless you tell us what you said, you are a racist. Bcs not posting what you said means you know it was wrong.[/quote] No, it’s protecting my identity. What I said was NOT wrong.[/quote] So you say. I had a guy at work rant at me about how he was labeled a racist for saying we are all IMMIGRANTS here unless we are native, and what is racist about that? Honestly, at this point, you are coming as horribly defensive and a bigot. Narcissist as well.[/quote] Are you trying to say the guy at work said something wrong?[/quote] Yes, 100%. I am an immigrant here; he is not.I immigrated to this county, whereas his family was colonists. Are we calling colonists immigrants now? No doubt this is op, who is a bigot.[/quote] How do you know his family were colonists? Don't assume that is true for all white people. [/quote] Bcs he said We Are All Immigrants Here.[/quote] My family (poor, uneducated immigrants from Ireland and Germany) immigrated to the US around the turn of the 20th century with nothing. I come from an immigrant family. I'm 4th gen and feel extremely fortunate about the sacrifices they made, but I also don't forget where I came from. If I said the US is "a nation of immigrants" does that make me a colonist and a bigot?[/quote] Yes. Bcs you have been a U.S. citizen for over a century. And North America was colonized and invaded. As mentioned, Anglos did not call the Vikings immigrants. There is a vast difference between you and me. I immigrated here during my lifetime. You have NOT. Nor was there such a thing as a poor "immigrant" around the turn of the 19 to 20 centuries. They had money to leave. I will never been see as an American, even though I have been one since 1996. You know it, I know it, all the people here know it. So, enough with your BS. You are not an immigrant. Long ago, your ancestors took a ship here, not you. Facts matter. Nation of immigrants, a nation of invaders, a nation of colonists, not we are all immigrants here.[/quote] I didn't say I was an immigrant. I said that I might say "we are a nation of immigrants" and that one reason I feel that to be true is that my own family immigrated here not that long ago and my family history is one of immigration. My family experienced discrimination and poverty when they moved here. I have a great great grandmother who worked, and died, as an indentured servant (she still "owed" her employer for her passage when she died at 29). I'm not claiming "immigrant" as a descriptor for me, but my family were (and definitely not colonists or invaders). It's pretty clear my family came here looking for opportunity and freedom, not to conquer anything. You know, immigrants. I'm not even sure how I feel about the phrase "nation of immigrants" because, for instance, it does not account for the many people whose family were brought her forcibly as slaves. But I also don't find it offensive as a term and I generally think the intention behind it is a positive one. To return to the subject of this thread, I think "cancelling" someone for using this phrase would be incredibly wrong-headed. I do think it's different than actual prejudice/racism and that you could have a productive conversation with someone about this kind of disagreement. To me, cancellation indicates that there is no point in engaging, but I think these are situations where engagement is actually desirable -- maybe we all learn something and are better people for it.[/quote]
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