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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And who are these men, exactly? If you took everyone I know from elementary school to a graduate degree and/or have worked with, maybe 4 or 5% hit it big. Meaning million dollar salaries or WSJ stories, etc. The rest have had mediocre to good careers. So let me guess, that 4 or 5% magically married DCUM posters who are in shape and run around in yoga pants? [/quote] Are you asking about men who make over half a million with SAHM? Hedge fund managers, real estate developers, tech sales, partners at law firms, built and sold own businesses etc. but these men are fine with SAHM wives their marriages last until men cheat , on average The worst are these 200k guys with wives who also make 200k. This is when the woman is exhausted to the brink of insanity as they tend to be cheap and controlling with resources on home aide and the wives are that cheaper “second shift” [/quote] I’m a $230K woman and although a second income would be nice [b]I wouldn’t marry anyone who made less than me. [/b]I have made a ton of career mistakes so I figure any competent guy should be out earning me by now.[/quote] Exhibit A[/quote] Sorry this bothers you. But I’m highly educated, worked hard and sacrificed a lot to get to this income. And most of my female friends make more. So I figure any intelligent hard working guy from similar background could have done the same. If he didn’t something is wrong and we are not compatible.[/quote] That is like the top 1% of US salaries. What on earth do these people do? Everybody can't be a lawyer or hedge fund manager.[/quote] Why should she not require the top 1% if she grew up in these circles? I am a recent immigrant who moved here as a teenager. All my peers from back home ( all from UMC homes) who moved here before 25 make 200k with the exception of PhD holders in academia and myself ( I stayed home for almost a decade). Lawyers, doctors, engineers, public accountants, some pharmacists, some specialist nurses 15-20 years into their careers usually make 200k. PP is talking generalities, and she will know when to make exceptions to her rule. But at 43, if you come from an UMC background, your only excuse for not making 200k should be that it's not that important to you. If it's important to PP, why should she not require it from a partner? Some of you think women should get married to any Tom or Dick who shows up. It's better to be single than married to someone who does not share your worldview. [/quote] You are using income as a litmus test of being a good dh. [/quote] It's a litmus test for her if she values it. Beyond character traits like kindness and empathy a " good" husband means different things to different people. I know people who spend 12k a year on Math tutoring per child. Add sports, music, some travel and you need some " good" money to make it work. If you grew up this way and want your kids to grow up the same way, you will need something close to 400k combined income in this area. Plus she is the one sleeping with the husband. If she needs him to be financially ambitious and driven in order for her to want to sleep with him, all the " good" in the world will not help him.[/quote]
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