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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=CL20171]- UVA CS is $46k/yr - UMD CS is $43k/yr with Merit. The cost is not much difference. Which one is better choice? Thank you for any input?[/quote] We're kind of in the same boat so really appreciate all the inputs above. How about throwing Pudue and VT into the comparison? UVA CS, 46K(in-state), School rank 25, CS rank 29. Purdue CS, 41K(OOS), School rank 51, CS rank 16. UMD CS 49K(w/ merit), School rank 55, CS rank 16. VT CS , 32K(in-state), School rank 62, CS rank 29. Visited all except Purdue. DS has no real preference between the 3 visited. Double major intended. Tuition are in doable range range for us. Thoughts? [/quote] In cs no one really cares where you go to school. It’s just competitive parents. The degree is what matters. All good choices. Congratulations [/quote] Right, a CS degree at MIT or CMU is the same as from Purdue or UVA. LOL[/quote] You realize that they all end up at the same companies so yes, it is just people competitive like you. [/quote] LOL You do not work in the CS field. The vast majority of CS grads don't work for FAANG, that is true. But people in the CS industry know which CS programs are the best, and they will recruit from there. That doesn't mean UVA CS grads can't find jobs. Of course not. But, if you want a good CS program, you go to UMD, not UVA. UVA boosters just can't stand that UMD CS is better than UVA. It's almost pathetic to watch you all and your "both are good schools". You would never say that about other majors. UVA CS is no better than VTech. If they all end up in the same companies, then save yourself $$ and go to VTech. [/quote] I greatly enjoy my FANG spouse's pay check so I think I do know he has no issue getting a job and he went to a no name school no one has heard of. After a few years of experience, skill, degree and how you interview are equally important. Funny enough, he's never had an issue getting or keeping a job even when others couldn't. Clearly he's doing something right from his bad CS school. His crummy degree will pay for our kids to get their CS degree to paying cash for it... not to shabby.[/quote] That's interesting.. because I (PP) also went to no name, didn't even major in CS but worked for FAANG. But, it took a lot longer to get there, and I'm thinking it did for your DH (hence the experience needed). We are outliers. The vast majority in FAANG are not from no name state university. I used to live in the Bay Area, too. Don't know how old your DH is, but back when I worked for FAANG they had a list of acceptable colleges by degree. Also, one of the FAANG founders went to UMD. None went to UVA. Just so you know. If you really think it doesn't matter where you go to college for CS, then go to a C rated school and see how you do. Again, a UVA grad in CS will be able to find a job, just a GMU grad can. So, then why not go to GMU over UVA if the outcome is the same?[/quote] A lot of his coworkers are not from fancy schools and many have degrees other than cs. I think it helps for your first job, but it also helps knowing someone who can help you get a job. Go to the school that is the best fit for the student. Skill and interviewing is also important when some companies make you do multiple interviews. We’ve had friends from good schools get turned down for similar jobs. They just did not interview well. Having a clearance helps a lot too. [/quote] Well, of course.. FAANG companies hire a lot of people with degrees other than CS. I don't know about the other FAANGs, but I do know that the one I worked at doesn't care if you know someone there. Your resume goes in the pile, unless you have some amazing achievement that someone pointed out.. like you developed some really great stuff at your previous job or at college. And yes, interview skills are very important. The FAANG company I worked for asked questions that tested your critical thinking skills and ability to think on the spot, unrelated to CS. These were general mental teaser type questions. The first job also is a stepping stone to the next job, which leads to it taking longer to get to a FAANG job if you don't have that pedigree. Most of the people I worked with went to places like Cornell, MIT, Cal... those were the ones who were hired directly. The others who went to lower tiered schools came through a circuitous route, myself included. In any case, the vast majority of IT workers don't work for a FAANG, so yes, if you are just out for a regular IT job, it doesn't really matter where you graduated from. But, it's a lot harder and takes longer to get a job at FAANG without the pedigree of where you went to school. [/quote] Hum. You had to go the circuitous route…funny as my spouse from a no name school got hired quickly after the interviews. Never has an issue getting a job or transferring. But, sure, keep telling yourself it’s all schools. After so many years experience no one cares but you. [/quote] Because I'm probably way older than your spouse. I don't care where people went to school. Why would I? I didn't go to a great school, either. My DC is probably going in state. But, it's not about me or your spouse. It's about the fact that generally, coming out of a great school for that major gives you a better chance to get a higher paying job. And that sets your baseline for your future.[/quote] He’s in his very late 50s so no you are just stretching to justify your bad advice. A good school helps but op is asking about two great school choices so it’s not really an issue. [/quote]
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