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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She's three years too late to reimagine policing.    They've already dumped a ton of mandates on the department and the department is now struggling to stay afloat.  One of the results is increased violent crime.   The political leaders should try working WITH the police department rather than against it to help improve staffing and operations.    Quit treating them like public enemy number 1.  they are county employees too.  [/quote]

It would help if they were interested in reform. They are not. They do not have any interest whatsover in racial equity, they get offended if you even mention race. They need to buckle up and be ready to be partners but if they aren't the politicians are going to keep at it because the electorate demands it.[/quote]

DP here.

Have you actually watched any of the council meetings? The police have shown up, ready and willing to work. The council has thrown inaccurate data around, often blaming MCPD directly for the faults of policing everywhere. I’ve been nothing but impressed with the professionalism shown by police administration, who have to endure the unfounded hate being flung by members of the council.

Have you actually witnessed what the public wants? The latest public forum clearly demonstrated that the public wants MORE policing, which seemed to come as a surprise to council members.

The police aren’t the enemy. Perhaps if the council could work with them, the council could see that. [/quote]

We obviously have different perspectives on the same meetings. I find MCPD to be very dishonest and disingenuous. But that's not surprising since you don't think MCPD should be held accountable for anything. I mean, increased crime is happening everywhere, that must mean there is nothing MCPD can do about it. The opioid epidemic is everywhere so no point in MCPD doing anything about it. I'm surprised you think we should even fund MCPD since you think national problems can't be addressed locally.[/quote]

This isn’t worth continuing. Yes, we have differing perspectives. A person (MCPD, in this case) isn’t being dishonest simply because you disagree with their point. Also, nowhere did I say MCPD shouldn’t be held accountable. Nowhere. Please find that line and point it out to me. Why can’t a person support the police AND expect accountability? The two are not in opposition to each other. The rest of your post is just manufactured garbage that has nothing to do with my comment.

If you are going to address MCPD in the same disingenuous manner you just addressed me, then they have no hope. [/quote]

That's not why I think they are dishonest, but keep saying that to convince yourself everyone who disagrees with you is stupid and wrong.

And yes you said, "The council has thrown inaccurate data around, often blaming MCPD directly for the faults of policing everywhere."

That means you don't think MCPD should ever have to even discuss a problem if it is one of the "faults of policing everywhere". Please.[/quote]

Holy crap that is one insane (and completely wrong) interpretation of PP’s words. [/quote]

It is the logical conclusion, you just don't want to admit it. You don't believe racism is real, just say that[/quote]

I’m a DP and not the one you are replying to.

That is not a logical conclusion. And how did you make this gargantuan jump to whether racism is real? Where did that even come from? [/quote]

Because that is what it all comes down to. You don't want to talk about it so you wave your hands and say oh it's everywhere, that's not MCPD's fault and they can't solve it. Basically an excuse to do nothing because you don't think it is real and therefore don't see the point in doing anything about it.[/quote]

I’m the original PP who posted about the council. I’m so confused by your series of responses. Who says racism isn’t real, and who says there no point in addressing racism here in Montgomery County? You can’t point ANYWHERE on this thread to those comments. Your interpretation is absurd.

It’s this type of thinking that worries me about our council. Beliefs about policing shouldn’t be this binary. MCPD has been regarded as a model department for many years, often sending officers to be chiefs in other jurisdictions. It has been ahead of the curve on training initiatives. It’s okay to acknowledge the good that comes out of the department. Acknowledging the good doesn’t mean avoiding the work that still needs to be done, or refusing to admit when there is wrongdoing. It seems, however, that the council (and the poster above) equates ANY positive mention of police as somehow horrible. [/quote]

Then what is the point of saying "blaming MCPD directly for the faults of policing everywhere"? The issues here are real. You can deny it but don't pretend you're trying to deny these issues exist. [/quote]

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