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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And this is what I was referring to

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavEOx3hUAk[/youtube]

At 1:30, incredibly based. [/quote]

Honestly, Dudaev shouldn't be the one to talk.

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Where is the lie, though?

You may not like it, but President Dzhokhar Dudayev said more truth in the 1995 interview than the inbred kozyol “president” has said in a decade. I’m not even a Dudayev Stan as many diaspora people are. Nor was I a supporter, I was literally six. I’m just saying, he was entirely right about Russia’s expansionist policy.

It’s not all the false equivalencies and whataboutisms. Putin is wrong and NATO has done wrong but one side is clearly more wrong. I’m not a foreign policy advisor and I don’t even work in the field (that’s probably good), but I honestly would. Not. Care. If the Russian Federation fell apart. I’m certainly not advocating for it but if their dysfunctional and aggressive government pushed things too far, like the ant to the flame like Dudayev said, and they fell apart into splintered republics I would say they had it coming. Why should we care about Russia’s territorial integrity since there are basically no redeeming qualities to Russian society anymore. And there once was, that’s too bad. [/quote]

Kadyrov lies but everyone knows he lies, and he himself knows he lies.

Dudaev says crap like this and acts like a total believer.  I don't know if I should spell it out, but if not for "Russism", then someone like Dudaev would have never advanced as far as he did, would have never become a four-star or whatever general, and he would also speak the language that only, like, three people understand (in a global context). His entire platform existed because of the USSR's military machine.   Dudaev presided over total lawlessness and thuggery that ruled Chechnya in the late eighties and earlier nineties.  He did nothing to stop crime and stood by as non-Chechen minorities in Grozny were hunted down, dispossessed, killed or displaced.  He set in motion the forces that made the republic the hotbed of crime and money laundering, which it remains today, by the way.

None of that is to say Russia behaves well, but if you look down memory lane, the proclamations like "once we become independent, we'll live like Switzerland!" were in the hundreds back in the day, and guess what, very very few of them ended up like Switzerland. The republics that are left to splinter know they can't survive by themselves without becoming non-entities.

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This is the Colonizer/White Saviour narrative that people say about Americans. Whether it's Africa, Central Asia, Latin America you name it, atrocities are acknowledged but they are always oh so much better off under the influence of the colonial power, right?

News flash, we don't know how any small or nonwestern nation would look in the 21st century were it not for colonialism and imperialism, because the were not given the chance to thrive alone. The third world countries today are "third world" because they were exploited, not because they are genetically inferior. [/quote]

It's weird that some people in these third world African countries celebrate Russia as some kind of anti-colonialist liberator who will lift them up and give them independence.  They seem oblivious and ignorant to the fact of Russia colonizing a huge part of Asia, and that their lack of colonies in Africa was definitely not for lack of trying.  Russia invested a great deal of effort trying to gain influence and control over African nations during the Cold War and continues to do so in the current day, Wagner PMC for example has thousands of troops across more than a half dozen countries in Africa and Russia has been involved in coup attempt after coup attempt, repeated attempts to destabilize, cause civil wars and strife, arming terror groups and warlords, et cetera.  And look at how Russia's current colonies live - many in Ingushetia, Dagestan and other parts of Russia, they live in poverty, barely have paved roads, many don't even have indoor plumbing or other modern amenities. Chechens as well. And now they are being exploited for cannon fodder for this stupid and pointless war in Ukraine.[/quote]

Yes, by all means, tell these ignorant people in "these third world African countries" how to feel, I'm sure you know better!

Africa doesn't celebrate Russia as a liberator. Not at all.  Africa is simply fed up with being told how to feel and who to support, and it is tired of putting a premium on conflicts where victims are white.  By the casualty count, the Ukraine war is a modest endeavor, compared to some other recent conflicts where victims were black or brown, yet see how it is dominating the headlines and commanding support? Where was this indignation and billions in public aid when African countries were hurting?

Don't talk about coups and civil wars and strife, the US has been hands deep in this in Africa since forever.  Now you want to cry foul when other countries are trying their hand in it?

The fondness many Africans have for Russia comes from the history of humanitarian aid and thousands of Africans educated in Russian universities, free of charge.  The aid USSR provided was seen as benevolent because what people remember is free education, roads and hospitals built by their hands and labor.

As for your comment on Ingushetia and Dagestan, let's just agree that there are many forms of colonial rule, and[b] at least people in Ingushetia and Dagestan are citizens of their country like any other with equal rights. [/b] Unlike, say, colonized Palestinians who can't even use general roads and airports in the country that colonizes them. [/quote]

LOL you think people from Ingushetia and Dagestan are treated equally in Russia. LOLOL. Are you kidding me, did you seriously just say that

And I AGREE with you on Palestine. Absolutely, and I think America has a censorship problem when you can't even make a mild criticism of the Israeli government without being called an anti-Semite, but that's not a whataboutism to say Russia is correct

But Russia likes to point fingers at America for so many reasons, including racism and mistreatment of minorities.... have you ever even been to Russia? The level of racism there is absolutely insane, it makes Red State America look woke. Including towards its "own" citizens that it was so hell bent on keeping in their territory. 
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I was born and raised in Grozny.

There is prejudice toward people from the Caucasus in Russia proper but there is no legal discrimination on the books. In the eyes of the law, there is no difference between them and any other Russian citizen. Certainly enough of them have advanced to dizzying heights in Russia proper in business, politics and the military!  Compare this to legal differences and treatment of the colonizer/colonized in Israel, Latin America, colonial Britain etc.  What rights does the law in Russia deny to the ethnic Dagestanis?

There is no "insane" level of racism in Russia at all, no.

I'm just going to let this hang here: Chechnya and Ingushetia residents account for every fourth subsidized mortgage loan in Russia.  [/quote]

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