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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From what I read, it's likely there will be significant change in Ivy League admissions driven by whatever the Supreme Court decides on Affirmative action and the schools moving away from test scores as a significant basis for admissions decisions.

The treatment of Asians in this process (discounting test scores and using subjective "personality" assessments) has been nothing short of scandalous and near indefensible (although the schools will try to defend the practice).

The advantage that private schools have had in this process might melt away driven by concerns over DEI.

The same goes for both legacy and athletic preferences. There's no real reason that HYP have to have nationally ranked teams.)

It's not impossible to envision an Ivy League dominated by Asians and URMs.

The schools have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Their current system may be both illegal and indefensible logically.

The correction to the system is going to be significant and there will be winners and losers. I'd be willing to bet the exclusive private schools will be among the losers.

Planning your DC's elementary and high school careers based on the current system of Ivy admission is fraught with risk unless you believe there is no substantiative change coming or that you will somehow be untouched or even advantaged by it.[/quote]

Nothing stops the Ivies from using race or any other arbitrary criteria they choose in their secret deliberations, as long as they don't make it explicit in writing somewhere. Screening out too many Asians is easy.  No one can sue them for choosing one group of 4% of applicants over another that way.  Otherwise, there would be a dozen lawsuits every year based on every criteria imaginable.

They are never going to adopt a numerical formula of grades and test scores then just take the top few hundred.  It's way more complex than that.[/quote]

Agree - it is holistic now and will continue to be. I actually think known schools (such as privates or well-known publics) get an advantage when there is less data bc being a member of the community shows they can do the work.[/quote]

People forget that the Ivies have MULTIPLE candidates for every slot who can pay, do the work, and excel.  They are businesses who can choose their customers.  Since their customers become part of the institution for several years, they don't automatically take the richest or the strongest academically.

Admissions officers are building a community at their Ivy school.  Since they have the luxury of almost infinite choice, they can pick and choose as they like among the hordes trying to get in.  You will never know if it was academics, ethnicity, wealth, lack of wealth, legacies, or something else that tipped a certain candidate, apart from sports scholarships.

So playing this guessing game is a waste of time.  There is nothing magic about the Ivies in terms of academics compared to the other Top 20 or 30 schools.  If I had kids now, I would send them to the secondary school they want to attend the most then apply to the colleges that sound the best for them.  if they do well in one, they will get into one of the others.

The Ivy obsession is way out of hand. It is NOT a magic ticket in life. Sure, it may help, but it may mean nothing extra.  I worked in a selective field and rarely met anyone else from an Ivy  school.[/quote]

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