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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Ah the classic response when presented with the truth - some personal attack.

Athletic recruits are admitted in spite of their academics. I feel no need to make parents of athletes feel better about the stories they tell themselves in a desperate attempt to believe that their kid didn’t get some advantage. People have no problem criticizing URMs for their supposed academic shortcomings but athletes (largely rich and white) should get a pass?[/quote]

Posts like these are false and inflammatory.  All Ivy schools must comply with AI standards, so while there may be students whose academic qualifications are a standard deviation below the stats of the average admitted student, that just means another athlete on the same team has to be a level above.  I believe my kids had an advantage by being recruited athletes at Ivy schools, but that advantage was limited to pulling them out of a pile  of other qualified students - it did not get them in the pile in the first place!  They got there by being valedictorian/NMSF or commended/SATs above 2300, taking rigorous classes, being on school teams and clubs, doing volunteer service . . . The same way other qualified students put their names in that pile of qualified applications.[/quote]

Of course you do. And that’s the problem - you can’t even admit your good fortune.  That’s the problem - not athletic recruiting per se - but the stubborn refusal of those who benefit from it to admit the extent to which they benefitted.

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Here’s what I don’t get: you keep referring to the athletes as having “good fortune.” As if they just woke up one day and were really good at, say, field hockey. Do you have any idea how hard an athlete admitted to a top 20 university had to work? They had to excel athletically and also academically. Maybe they are a standard deviation from the student admitted on academics alone, but they still do something far and away more impressive than many of those students. It’s not luck. [/quote]

+100

So much sacrifice.

My kid would have hours of athletic practice, games, travel to games, travel out of state on weekends, all while balancing an all Honors/AP courseload, and even a summer job and active member of some Clubs.

He would be doing homework in the car on the way to practice.  He would read assignments on the way to games out of state.  This isn't any different from kids in marching band who have similar juggling of activities, and also get an admissions bump for their talent.

You have no idea how much work these kids are doing vs the kids that really only have to study after school, not do 4 hours of training.[/quote]

Why should anyone care about that? Marching band kids aren’t skating into college because of it. At least recognize the difference. Plenty of kids who spend 4 hours doing other activities after school aren’t either. Your kids are and that’s fine. Just admit it. [/quote]

If you think recruited athletes are “skating in” to elite schools (or any college) you are a total ignoramus who has never raised a child athlete. [/quote]

My brother was one of the top 5 recruits in the country for his sport and the ivies/service academies, etc passed on him because of his grades/test scores.  Some offered to have him redshirt a year and being up at CC, but he went to a D1 of a lesser academic caliber.[/quote]

What were his grades like? [/quote]

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