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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe OP is reluctant to identify the current school because it is an SLAC and having this type of difficulty at an SLAC runs counter to the liberal arts education at a small school sales pitch.

If OP's child is looking to transfer, not identifying more about the current school is likely to make this an exercise in futility. Specifics matter. This is an anonymous forum. Most posters want to help and some of us have decades of experience.
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There are only 15 schools in the T15 national universities  and I acknowledged it isn’t UChicago.  I said this in my OP.

I appreciate the personal anecdotes and thoughtful lists from some PPs. Also the big picture analysis - kid thought they could avoid the brass ring problem by being strategic in their choice. Seems they were wrong

If - if - kid raises the idea of transferring I would ask them to look at giant flagships like Michigan or Berkeley, etc. There has to be something of everything there - right?[/quote]

Yes, Berkeley and Michigan both offer variety in large doses.

To understand the parameters of OP's request:

2023 US News Top 15:

Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Chicago, JHU, UPenn, Caltech, Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Rice, and WashUStL.

Remainder of the Top 20 National Universities: Cornell, Columbia, Notre Dame, UC-Berkeley, and UCLA.

Based on OP's posts, the student is currently at one of Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, or Rice as these have reputations for being a bit more relaxed than the others.

OP: Although there is probably no need to transfer, Dartmouth College has a high acceptance rate for transfers (29%).  Vanderbilt has a 37% acceptance rate for transfers. Rice is at 12%. Duke & Brown are at 5% & 4%. The 21% and 24% rates for Berkeley & UCLA are misleading as many come from 2 year California junior colleges.

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