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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everyone knows Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona are qualitative on a different league, and higher, than UF. And who the hell is UF? [/quote] UF is Florida. While Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona are good schools, they are assessed separately from full-fledged universities.[/quote] That shows there's something fundamentally wrong with the list. I'd seriously question why X college is is ranked Y and not Z. It's too random. Garbage in, garbage out. More garbage in, more garbage out. [/quote] You're not making any sense. It is perfectly normal for LACs to be assessed separately from universities.[/quote] Yes, but should they be? Ranking is not so difficult. And applicants routinely apply to both types of schools. The current classifications are, in any event, silly to begin with: do Dartmouth and Princeton really have more in common with 30k plus undergraduate student factories like Michigan and Berkeley than they do the Williams Colleges of the world? [/quote] The top LACs are probably in the lower end of the T20 range. They really are excellent schools, just maybe a little overlooked.[/quote] There likely just outside the top 20. Seen here with Amherst at 22. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/rankings/united-states/2022 [/quote] Fair. That seems accurate.[/quote] Not fair at all. I cannot believe that Williams and Amherst are lower ranked than Emory in this index. No way. Problem with all these rankings is the methodology is always set up to favor larger universities. Also, Emory is a school that has been caught cheating on rankings in the past. [/quote] Where would you rank Williams and Amherst then?[/quote] NP. Many colleges on this list are poorly ranked, so I won’t comment on it. But, starting with a blank slate, any competent undergrad ranking list (which necessarily would unify all colleges, large and small, which kids actually apply to) should probably have Williams 10-15; Amherst, Swarthmore, and Pomona 15-20; and Bowdoin 20-25.[/quote] The problem with this argument is that there are already rankings which combine the two, and none of these LACs are ranked that highly.[/quote] +1, they sound like Berkeley boosters. Always putting it in the top 10 where it doesn't belong. [/quote] I think you mean UVA strivers. [/quote]
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