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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]W schools may have more money from boosters and some nicer things for athletics (but it is becoming more even), but take a look at the Wheaton High School matriculation list this year and any jealousy might disappear (it’s pretty amazing — CalTech, a couple MITs, Harvard, Stanford, Harvey Mudd, Swathmore and many more.  It is an impressive list).[/quote]

Super Jealous of Wheaton by looking at the few kids who made it though one can totally overlook the 50% FARMS rate, poor test scores, almost unmeasurable AP participation rate (2%),high dropout and suspension rate. It's a Gem [/quote]

The AP participation rate at Wheaton High School is 63%[/quote]

Participation is not the same as passing.  Of 425 graduates, 203 graduates (47.8%) achieved a passing score on AP (3+) or IB (4+). Only 71.8% took the SAT (which likely means that 28.2% of the students may not even be applying to colleges).

Even Blair is only at 52% passing (and the only reason it's that high is due to the magnet program there).

If you compare Wheaton and Blair with other High Schools, they achieve about the same AP/IB passing rates of graduating students as Quince Orchard HS.

Whitman 84.0
Wootton 78.4
Churchill 77.9
Poolesville 76.2
BCC 69.6
RM 67.0
QO 55.3
Magruder 46.7

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04757.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04602.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04234.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04201.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04406.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04125.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04152.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04510.pdf[/quote]

DP In a perfect world family income would not determine whether a child goes to college, but it does. I'm not sure why you think it's so terrible to be around kids that aren't going to college. Yes, it's a sign the school might be able to serve those kids better, but the W schools are not doing anything different, they just serve a different population.[/quote]

But isn't that the whole point of school?  To ensure a child has a successful life?

If a kid's parents can't afford college, and they know that, how about a Plan B?  Why not Small Business School, business accounting, or a trade, or something that will either start a career or at least position them to earn tuition or land jobs in companies with tuition reimbursement programs?  If they're hands-on types, why not teach them 3-D printing / manufacturing, or robot/drone repair, or something to position them for futuristic next-gen labor categories?

If the kids are dropping out of High School at 10% rates, that's a problem.  It means that MCPS isn't meeting their needs and interests.  If they don't have the money for college, at least give them a life-line.  This is what pisses me off about MCPS.  They think that redrawing a boundary or dumping them into a different school with rich kids will make a dropout successful.  No, it won't.  It will just make them check out of school faster.[/quote]

PP here - I don't disagree with you that MCPS could serve those students better. But I'm always perplexed by folks like you who on the one hand:

1. Insist that W schools are better for YOUR child
2. Reject the idea that poor kids could benefit from going to wealthier schools

It's really obvious [b]you just hate poor kids and want them to fail, to punish their parents whom you see as neglectful (not that you've ever met any of these families)[/b].

In fact it's the rich kids that are going to be fine either way and [b]the poor kids that have a lot to gain from balancing demographics a little more[/b].[/quote]

Not true at all.  Nothing against FARMS students.  But I know that sometimes FARMS has hard working people (entry-level office workers, immigrants, young professionals just starting out, people just with hard luck situations such as a medical illness or single-parent, etc.), and sometimes FARMS is a sign of other circumstances (paroled convicted criminals, registered sex offenders, gang members, drug dealers, etc.).  The good FARMS families won't have any issues no matter where they go, and no one will even know they are FARMS kids.  But I also know you can't separate kids from good families based upon boundary lines.  I know that at some schools, if a fight breaks out, and it's business as usual.  Other schools, a fight breaks out, and all the other kids whip out their cell phones to record it.

For many years I lived in a neighborhood where elementary schoolers played in the playgrounds after dark.  The same kids were arrested for drugs and fighting when they were old enough to be formally charged.  I read the weekly comments on social media and parents posting the house videos of either HS or young adults.  Eventually they make mistakes and are caught.  Maybe they'll do okay after a stretch, but maybe not.  I just know the parents are angry enough at all the post-covid neighborhood thefts, assaults, and national shootings that I can see a huge backlash at some point.

By all means, change up all the boundaries, if you think busing troubles away to another school helps.   I just think MCPS will make the school-to-jail pipeline worse than it is now.

Think I'm not telling the truth?  [shrug]  Whatever.[/quote]

You are kidding yourself if you don't think drugs, alcohol and violence happen at richer schools.  In fact, some of the wealthier schools have had far more problems this year than the other schools.

Please let us know what school your kids are at.  You are not someone I'd want near my kids.[/quote]

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