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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Parents and students here aren’t blaming “others”. They are blaming a broken system [/quote]

Amen. It's more than just a flood of applicants and even the flood of applicants has its origin, which is part of the broken system.

Aren't we get vocal and drive change when things are broken? And if you don't think things are broken[b] when 1600 SAT scores and 4.5 GPAs don't get you into good schools, [/b]we have different expectations for Higher EDUCATION in America.

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They do get you into good schools. Just not the good schools that you think give you bragging rights.[/quote]

As if bragging rights were worth a nickel. You know what is worth a nickel? Getting into a top school. Check the stats and the outcomes and the starting salaries. We can rah rah all day long about it not mattering or it being right to "balance" classes but when the outcome is a 160K starting salary vs. a 72K starting salary for the same degree, you'd have to have your head in the sand not to think WHERE matters.  And I think it's pretty reasonable for kids who have stellar academics to expect to go to colleges with stellar academics and to feel pretty upset when non-stellar academics are admitted instead. And contrary to belief, the number of people going to college is declining. The number of applications is exploding due to TO and people having no f-ing idea where they can get in anymore.  If colleges keep rejecting the top academics they will begin to see their reputation decline as their graduates become increasingly less capable. Sure this will take years and years to prove out but look at history and the decline of great empires. They forget what made them great to begin with and that set the stage for their eventual demise.[/quote]

OMG.  Exaggerate much??  Who says that the kids getting in don’t have high academic stats.  Just because a college may not take 4.0 and 1600 kid does not mean the 3.95 and 1500 kid is not as a capable.  Maybe the 3.95 kid also had better ECs.  No institution will develop a bad reputation because everybody is not a 4.0.  [/quote]

Seriously. And if a bunch of those 4.0/1600 kids land at schools of a slightly lower tier then won't that just make those schools better? The T30-or-bust crowd will never open their minds to the idea that there is more to a stellar education than the stats that go into the USNWR rankings.[/quote]

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