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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This website has lists of the undergraduate schools attended for people in 12 fields. Look at them and then tell us you think HR cares about the school attended more than the individual's qualifications.....

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/law/

While you're at it, on the same site a study by the Chronicle of Higher Ed is quoted that shows employers surveyed about what factors matter when hiring new graduates placed college prestige dead last.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/5/
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Law firms particularly (other than, maybe, small ones where going to the same college as the partners could help) and other legal employers could care less where you got your undergrad degree.  But, I promise you they care about the name of your JD.  Many firms won't even hire outside the top tier (or only in very special circumstances).  So the first set is 100% useless.  Show me the same data about Skadden but this time with the law school rather than undergrad.  [/quote]

I think the point of showing the Skadden list was exactly what you're saying: law firms don't care where you get your undergrad degree, so what's the point in ranking undergraduate programs as OP requested and so many are happy to oblige?[/quote]

Because, for many people, college is their terminal degree. [/quote]

You’re missing the point. The stupid author of that absurd blog is trying to point out “relax! Look at all these colleges which produce Skadden hirees!” But we lawyers are saying that’s an irrelevant point. What matters to top
Law firms that s the law school you went to, whether or not you are on law review, summer associate positions (based upon the former) and judicial clerkships. They don’t care about undergrad so the citation is worthless. Those of us who went to some of those SLACs (self included) were out indergrad’s valedictorians with high lsats so got into T3 law schools.[/quote]

I don't disagree with you about what many top law firms care about regarding law school, although I'll point out that they're willing to go much deeper into the USNWR rankings percentage-wise than many on DCUM are willing to for undergrad programs. With around 2800 4-year undergrad schools, many seem to think only the top 1-2% are worth looking at. Top law firms take from law schools ranked in the top 5-10% of the 200 or so in the US. If people did that for undergrad schools, they'd be choosing from a list of at least 140 schools for their smart, ambitious, highly accomplished children. This would make a lot more sense and reduce a lot of anxiety.

The point you're missing is that the original post in this thread asked people to rank UNDERGRADUATE schools, so it is relevant to look at the undergraduate paths people took to get to desirable jobs regardless of whether they had some sort of graduate program in between. Those who barely miss out on being admitted to whichever of the schools in OP's challenge someone thinks is the best of that lot and have to 'settle for' whichever school they think is the worst of that lot are not going to see any difference in the future opportunities they have, so the whole exercise of trying to parse out which is 'the best' is pointless. I guess it's fun for grads of these schools to go at it with each other, but no one should take it seriously.

Perhaps I should have linked to the engineering list or the Wall Street list or the journalism list instead, all of which make the same point without requiring graduate school for most.[/quote]

That would have made far more sense.[/quote]

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