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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Worst case, it’s just over two weeks until we find out which kids have completely antisocial, self-absorbed parents, and therefore are best avoided.[/quote]

Yep - just look for the kids wearing masks and then you will know who has parents like that ![/quote]

You know that kid or someone in their household could’ve medically fragile and therefore have strong reason for needing the mask, especially as your kid goes without, right?

This article nails it so well:  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/weve-never-protected-the-vulnerable/619981/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR15DA6nTNIthIUjDAArj_7CuRgD6fdeg7PkIcptLEkjgr8EuoX6uTZr6Ow
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From the article:

Now, as more and more people get vaccinated, much of the country is returning to normal. Some people point to decreased hospitalization and mortality rates among the immunized, or argue that COVID-19 is here to stay but manageable and that restrictions are unnecessary. Some further argue that most who aren’t vaccinated have chosen that path, and so if risk remains, it’s on them.

Such thinking ignores a third, not-insignificant group: those who would like to be immune but aren’t. Some people are still at risk because they can’t yet be vaccinated or because vaccines don’t work for them. They hope that their fellow Americans will take care of them. They hope that the rest of us will agree to sensible precautions or protections to keep them safe until they, too, can be immunized, or until the danger from exposure eventually subsides.

Much of the public is refusing. That’s not new, though. In America, it’s always been like this.

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Part of my job, both as a writer and as a chief health officer, is to explain how much less-risky most activities are now compared with last year. Many of the people I talk with, though, have others in their life who aren’t yet safe, and they are horrified that we can’t create exceptions or come up with policies to protect their vulnerable loved ones. I share their frustration, but I’m puzzled by their surprise. America has never cared enough. People just didn’t notice before.[/quote]

At some point - something has to give and we have to give those who want it - school with no masks. Those who don’t want that are going to have to do something like apply for Virtual VA for school next year. [/quote]

You’ve got it backward. Your maskless kids can apply for virtual. Makes more sense. Masks in public. None at home. [/quote]

Nope sorry honey - you have it backwards.  Why would 99% of folks change their behavior to accommodate the 1% versus the 1% making the necessary adjustments they need to make?  You are so friggin selfish it's disgusting.[/quote]

You must not be in APS. The majority of parents want to keep masks. Even that silly informal poll showed so. [/quote]

Have you been to any youth basketball games in Arlington, seen and Arlington Soccer or Lax teams playing at St. James, seen their swim teams competing in meets? There are plenty of Arlington parents perfectly fine with their kids indoors unmasked. Heck, just look at any resteraunt and you'll see plenty of families.  [/quote]

I am comfortable allowing my fully vaccinated children unmask indoors. If the vast majority of Arlington families want to continue masking then there should be very little change from the status quo by lifting the mandate. Stop making kids protect the unvaccinated and the vulnerable while [b]the rest of society continues on w/o restrictions[/b]. It is not okay. [/quote]

The problem you are identifying is that the rest of society isn't doing what it can and should to protect vulnerable people.  You know, the kids with chronic health conditions at risk for covid complications who are too young for a vaccine.

If anyone were talking about the reality that there are some kids (like hearing impaired) who have legitimate, serious problems wearing masks, then I would hope we could come up with some clear exceptions to mask mandates. I suspect we're talking pretty small numbers here.  (which isn't to say that those kids are unimportant, simply that I think unmasking kids who have legitimate need to be unmasked would be a small increase in transmission risk).  But where is that line?  Parents, such as myself, who support masks in school to protect my under 5 with a COVID health risk, aren't trying to harm other kids.  The problem is I hear too many parents screaming that they're tired of wearing a mask, they're tired of not living their life the way they want to.  Its all about them, them, them and what they want. The parents complainign they're just tired of masks, and they are done looking out for other people are the problem.  The trouble is defining what is and is not a legit need to unmask in school.  [b]Parents of kids at risk for COVID complications and parents of kids with legitimate problems wearing masks have a lot in common.[/b]  [/quote]

Except that the fight seems to be only for one group (kids at risk for Covid complications) and not for the other (kids who legitimately have issues from masking).

Did you know the CDC defined all primary grade kids learning to read as being potentially at risk from masking?[/quote]

The conversation is all masks or none at all.  This is a problem.  Parents with at risk under 5s vs. whiny parents who are just tired of covid AND parents with kids who have legitimate issues with masks.  Parents with at risk under 5s don't trust this second group because it includes whiny parents who want zero limitations on who can be maskless.  Parents of kids with legitimate issues with masks don't trust the other side to ever have an off ramp, and don't trust a limitation on who can be maskless because they fear it won't include their child.  I do think the biggest problem is the whiny parents who are just tired of COVID. They're the ones screaming loudest for zero restrictions anywhere. They know they don't have a legitimate medical basis for their kids to take off their masks.  Kids I know with legitimate issues with masks also have some other challenges, so their parents are all too familiar with the world not being as available to them as it is to everyone else.  I'm not saying that is right.  I'm simply saying in my limited experience these are NOT the families throwing tantrums demanding they be allowed to take masks off just because they feel like it.  I don't know how to solve this, I'm simply pointing out that two groups with a lot in common (parents with at risk under 5s and parents with kids who have legit issues with masks) are getting wedged apart by a very loud and selfish group of people.

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In my experience the parents of kids who have legitimate issues with masks are highly favorable of simply mask optional for everyone, which is also what parents of kids who are simply mask haters want. Nobody is asking for a return to 2019 where masks are illegal to wear in Virginia and schools also prohibit them.[/quote]

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