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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] "Why do you want to end work? 
Because the modern day workplace is one where you are expected to work despite your own individual needs or desires. Work puts the needs and desires of managers and corporations above and beyond workers, often to the point of abuse through being overworked and underpaid." [/quote]

I fully support reforms.  But this sort of statement indicates that the movement is for white collar employees who have options. There is a lot about American industry that requires schedules and showing up in person for designated periods. Even in some white collar professions, such as education, the needs of society require set hours regardless of your personal needs or desires.

It has been interesting to see how flexible jobs have become as a result of the pandemic. But people working at the grocery store or operating trains and buses or fixing your vehicles still have to show up in person at the appointed time in order to make the world go round. There hasnt been any change for them. [/quote]

While that's true there are a lot of service sector jobs that require you to be "on call" on your days off.  It's a totally sh*t practice where you're expected to be available to come in if they need you but you're not guaranteed a shift that day.  I don't know how employers get away with this practice of requiring employees to be available but not paying them for that time.[/quote]

Exactly.  There are ways to have a store or service be open whatever set hours it needs to be, without exploiting workers.  Business are run such that if one person is not able to show up, it is a disaster.  Building in some "margin" for operations eats into profits, so it isn't done.  And reasonable vacation/sick time is another way of treating people with dignity, or even just not fighting people when they want to take time off for an unpaid vacation.

And maybe business don't need to bend to the will of the consumer.  There is this local co-op owned sandwich place where I live that is constantly (it seems) randomly closed for 1-2 weeks at a time because the owners/staff decide to give themselves the time off.  Go to many tourists places in Europe in August and find many popular spots shuttered for holidays.  It's fine.  People cna get their sandwhich elsewhere for a week.

The movement is for everyone, and particularly NOT for white collar jobs.  All jobs deserve dignity.  The modern day work place treats workers very poorly, and answers to shareholders above all else.  I don't know if it is even fixable.

Gov't jobs are often much more humane, because they answer to society instead of profits.  [/quote]

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