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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If the Russian troops advance I am good with a NATO alliance providing air support.

We need to give it up on Nordstream 2. All the parties to the actual agreement want that to happen. It's not ideal, but as demonstrated by Russian troops at the border of Ukraine we have much bigger fish to fry. If we let Putin take Ukraine we have massive problems in the area. Europe cares, but Europe can't do it on its own.[/quote]
Without credible ground forces, air power in of itself cannot significantly alter the battle space, especially against a foe that will contest any air ops.  Air power cannot seize and hold ground.  The Ukraine Army is not credible or capable of doing this with or without air support.  It will only escalate to a wider war and Ukraine is not worth that.  Sure, use all the non-kinetic tools at our disposal to get the Russians to stand down but war, as we have seen over and over for two decades of failure, is not the answer.[/quote]

PP here. I appreciate this thoughtful and I am sure correct analysis (I am being sincere).

I still say bomb the $H!T out of the Russians on the border if they advance. I truly think it's the only thing Putin will really respond to. And blame the deaths of Russia's sons directly on Putin, publicly, and often. Does that ratchet up the old tensions? Yes. But the Russians have been operating largely unchecked in many ways for several years - poisoning enemies in the UK, assassinating enemies in Berlin, attacking a US diplomat/spy at the US Embassy, etc. and then you get to the invasion of Ukraine.

Pushing back against Putin and his agenda also helps us domestically.[/quote]

Plus encouraging widespread cyber attacks and soccer hooliganism by the "private" sector[/quote]

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