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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions.  Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class.  I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.[/quote]

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.[/quote]

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?[/quote]

Your brain is truly in the wrong place. You have no idea what you are talking about to ask such a question.[/quote]

I would argue that being in the lower 75% of your class at a private school actually hurts your application.  college admissions is mainly a numbers game and if your class standing is low you will be over looked.  Funny how people think spending tons of money on private school gives them a leg up, but in reality it is the opposite.[/quote]
 Then why do they choose private over inclusive public?
Agreed…I’m in undergraduate admissions at mid-tier private university and being in the lower half of a regarded private works against the student, as we select based on numbers - including number of students from a specific school.  You may have better credentials than middle third of public high school, but we select only so many from your school.  High performing public school students are actually more desirable…[/quote]

Wow…so bottom line is save your money.  This makes sense, as you want your kid to be on the top half of the travel sports team he/she plays on, so that they get the most reps / exposure / playing time.  Seems to be true for admissions as well.  Better to be in the top half of a public school than the bottom half of a private.  And shows you are more well-rounded / adjusted as you are exposed to more adversity / distraction / inclusion.  Better to shine than to be average, no matter what the school…again, save your money[/quote]

The person in undergraduate admissions is saying it is better to be [b]a high performing public school students[/b] than a lower than average private school student. Not exactly what you understood. 
The [b]average performing  student[/b] would still do better college admissions wise at a private than a public. [/quote]

Average performing students at Big 3 privates would be high performing students at public schools if they chose to attend public schools.[/quote][/quote]

Then why do they choose elitist private over inclusive public? [/quote]

Because the game has changed.  Previously, average performing students at Big 3 privates do better in college admissions than high performing students at public schools.  But not now.  Now high performing students at public schools do better in college admissions than average performing students at Big 3 privates.  This change will reflect in private schools enrollment in the future (but may not be so quickly). [/quote]

If local DMV Eds are representative then this is likely true.[/quote]

Wow…tide is a changing…

Makes sense as there is an anti-privilege sentiment across our nation (test optional, social discord, tax reform), and nothing screams perceived privilege, elitism, and non-inclusion than privates…going to be interesting…if you are on the fence in the next few years, skip the private school education , put the money towards your kids launch later, as it will work against you…[/quote]

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