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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I always thought it was a combination of religious ideas at the time The region was at crossroads of cultures, so influences from eastern religions and Hinduism The wise men from the east. Religion needed to be reformed. Jews used to sacrifice animals in the temples and send goats to the desert[/b][/quote] ? So was Jesus a real historical figure or not?[/quote] No mainstream scholar today argues against Jesus’ historical existence. In fact, nearly all New Testament scholars today, many of whom are non-Christians and skeptics, consider not only Christ’s existence but his crucifixion to be “historical bedrock.” Critic John Dominic Crossan writes that “Jesus’ death by crucifixion under Pontius Pilate is as sure as anything historical can ever be” (Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography). With similar conviction, atheist scholar Gerd Lüdemann concludes, “Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable” (The Resurrection of Christ). [/quote] Even if they feel very, very strongly about his existence, it’s impossible to definitively prove. Most likely existed? Sure. And that’s not as important as [i]the story[/i] of Jesus. People love a good story. And his story has had quite a big impact. [/quote] No mainstream scholar today argues against Jesus’ historical existence. In fact, nearly all New Testament scholars today, many of whom are non-Christians and skeptics, consider not only Christ’s existence but his crucifixion to be “historical bedrock.” Critic John Dominic Crossan writes that “Jesus’ death by crucifixion under Pontius Pilate is as sure as anything historical can ever be” (Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography). With similar conviction, atheist scholar Gerd Lüdemann concludes, “Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable” (The Resurrection of Christ). Jesus was a man who walked the earth. Why you deny Him is that you fear Him. Why put all this effort into denial of Him, especially when mainstream atheist scholars also agree Jesus existed? Do you think your Wikipedia research shows you the “real” truth that somehow all the big guns missed or are ignoring?[/quote] Yes, you have copied and pasted that blurb multiple times. That doesn’t make it any more convincing. Or demonstrate that he definitively was a real person. I DGAF if he lived or not. [i]Most likely[/i] he did. But people shouldn’t falsely claim he was a real person as 100% fact. We only have circumstantial evidence. And I didn’t post anything from Wikipedia - there are multiple posters. [/quote] We have more evidence that Jesus actually existed as a man that walked the earth than for 99.9% of people who existed in his timeline. So yeah, that’s a big deal. [/quote] A large amount of circumstantial evidence is still circumstantial. [i]Most likely[/i] he existed. [/quote]
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