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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I always thought it was a combination of religious ideas at the time
The region was at crossroads of cultures, so influences from eastern religions and Hinduism
The wise men from the east.
Religion needed to be reformed. Jews used to sacrifice animals in the temples and send goats to the desert[/b][/quote]

? So was Jesus a real historical figure or not?[/quote]

Hopefully, you do not expect a definitive answer here on DCUM.  Look it up, as they say. And keep in mind that "real historical figure" does not mean "son of god" - just that there is evidence that the person once lived -- like Ben Franklin, or Henry the 8th, or you, assuming you have a valid birth certificate.[/quote]

It’s impossible to [i]definitively[/i] prove he was a real person.

There is some circumstantial evidence though that shows he was [i]most likely[/i] a real person. 
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[b]So what?  There's compelling evidence that Ben Franklin, Henry the 8th and presumably you were real people. There's no evidence that anyone is supernatural - it's beyond science and thus requires faith to believe it[/b].[/quote]

I think the OP was just asking if he was an actual person, not about the supernatural stuff.  The pp you're responding to has it right i'm sure. Jeus was most likely a real person.  I do believe he lived, was baptized, preached in the Galilee area, and probably went to Jerusalem at the end of his days -- beyond that everything is conjecture. [/quote]

[b]Again, So what? So he lived[/b] -- lots of people lived back then and no one has bothered to try to prove it because no supernatural claims were being made about them.   The big claim is not simply that Jesus lived, but that he was Son of God and historical evidence somehow adds to the credence of that claim, which no historian will ever make, because history only deals with the natural world, not the supernatural world that some people believe in.[/quote]

Because plenty question whether he even did.  I think that's what OP is asking about.  Bart Ehrman sys there was a historical Jesus, and that's good enough for me.  The other stuff, the supernatural claims, yeah, I agree that can never be proved one way or the other.  [/quote]

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