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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because the odds of acceptance are higher when you’re in the pool.[/quote]
The "in pool" checkbox isn't why the odds of acceptance are higher for pool kids.  It's because the higher scores do demonstrate something, and they correlate with higher GBRS scores on average.  The actual "in pool" status itself doesn't get you any extra points over the other kids.[/quote]

Perhaps. It certainly doesn’t offer extra “points” per se. That said, the committee definitely knows which applicants are in and which are not in pool. I don’t think anyone can say with certainty that the distinction confers no added benefit in and of itself.[/quote]

DP.  We can say that GBRS is much more important than pool status or test scores, as shown in the AAP equity report.  Also, considering that NNAT is largely discounted, we can pretty definitively say that an in-pool kid with a 140 NNAT and 120 CogAT will not be looked upon more favorably or "gain points" relative to a not in pool kid with a 131 on each of NNAT and CogAT.

Of course we can't say with certainty that in-pool has no benefit in and of itself, since the process is a black box.  It's pretty reasonable to conclude that it has no or minimal benefit.  Prep aside, kids with higher test scores on average are going to be smarter than the kids with lower test scores, which should be reflected in the GBRS.  Kids who have been heavily prepped have also been taught how to be good, attentive students who participate fully in class and produce neat, well done work.  That will also be reflected in GBRS as well as the work samples.  Also, test scores and level of advancement do matter.  In pool kids at least have some high test scores, while parent referrals may have pretty low scores.  Despite all of this, there isn't a huge difference in the rate of acceptance between parent referrals (50%) and in-pool (67%).  More kids get accepted through parent referral than through the pool.  Since there are tons of parent referrals, it is highly likely that there's no difference in acceptance at all between kids with a CogAT around 125 and a decent GBRS and an average in-pool kid.  [/quote]

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