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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are now saying early 2022. But it is pretty crappy of you to pin your hopes on little kids saving you instead of adults. [/quote]

As a parent of a child under 12, I'm not looking for him to "save me".  I am looking to protect him and save [i]him[/i] from the a$$hats who refuse to get vaccinated by choice.  Beyond that, I couldn't care less if they don't care enough to take care of themselves.[/quote]

I am so sick of the kids will be fiiiine crowd.  these people are not trumpers but liberal elitists who just want to get on with things. [/quote]
If this virus had the same effect on the population as a whole as it does on kids (i.e. few, if any, symptoms for the vast, vast majority), covid would’ve been in the news a few times and would then have been ignored. We wouldn’t have imposed any restrictions, and nobody would have spent money developing a vaccine.

So, given that covid doesn’t pose any meaningful risk to kids, what’s the point of vaccinating them? Is there any other vaccine that we give to a group that isn’t at risk from the disease in question?[/quote]

Here we go again. Hundreds of kids in the United States have died from COVID. A substantial percent of them were otherwise healthy. Many, many more are suffering from long-term side effects. While they are generally at less of a risk than adults, it is simply incorrect to say that they aren’t at a meaningful risk. [/quote]

The issue is whether the risks of the vaccine would outweigh the benefit in this subpopulation.  “The Science” says we don’t know.  You make think you know, but that’s like, just your opinion, man.  It’s entirely inconsistent to claim that “antivaxxers” are irrational to have qualms about clinical trials showing vaccine efficacy, and then say the vaccine should be approved for under 12s when the clinical trials are inconclusive on risk/benefit just because you want to vaccinate your kids. [/quote]

I’m the PP you’re responding to. I didn’t say anything about the risk-benefit analysis. I was simply responding to the misleading statement that COVID doesn’t pose a meaningful risk to kids. And while I have my opinions, I agree it is ultimately up to the FDA to make a determination of the risk-benefit analysis. [/quote]

We are talking about less than 500 kids have died, it was 401 last time I checked out of about 74 million children under 18 in the United States, so YES, YES...COVID does NOT pose any meaningful risk to children. You cite hundreds but forget to cite out of how many. It isn't as if there are 1000 kids, we are talking about OVER 74 million. The risk is less than 0.01% and NO most of the kids who have died were not otherwise healthy. [/quote]

It has been cited in other threads—with supporting links—that between 25 and 41 percent of pediatric COVID deaths were kids who were otherwise healthy. And while the denominator is of course large, hundreds of pediatric COVID deaths is still a significant number considering the nature of the population—which is why it’s one of the leading causes of death among kids right now. [/quote]

FALSE. Since the start of the pandemic, there have been 50K deaths from all causes in the 17 and under age group. Of these, under 400 are due to COVID. So no, COVID isn't even close to a "leading cause of death" among children. Motor vehicle deaths, firearm deaths and cancer are much larger risks than is COVID.
 	
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I’m not sure where the higher numbers of coming from but on July 20th, CDC confirms 335 Children Ages 17 and Under Have Died of COVID in U.S. During Pandemic[/quote]

Does anyone know a source where those numbers are broken down more by age range?  I think it can be really helpful to see if most of those were aged 12-17 versus 5-8 years old.  I suspect many who passed away are in the age group that can currently be vaccinated.[/quote]

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