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[quote=Anonymous][quote]Right. And what you described is a tremendous amount of work. [b]Women take in this immense role of teaching the kids without hitting[/b], because let’s be honest….the formula of “3 year old whines = smack” is alot easier than what you described. And men just check out of that process in many cases. Add in unrealistic workplace expectations, food prep and cleaning and it’s a formula for never ending stress.[/quote]

I am the PP who grew up in the 60s and 70s who was routinely hit by relatives, babysitters, and schoolteachers. Just FYI the majority of the adults who hit us back then [i]were women[/i]. This is as you would expect, because back then, men were at work and most of the adults who were around kids were women. The dysfunction in these women was exactly what another PP observes in her husband - these women got impatient, struggled to remember how inexperienced the kids were (or didn't care), got enraged at anything less than perfect compliance, and quickly resorted to smacking us rather than try to figure out how to exert their authority effectively without violence. I don't see this as a particularly male pathology at all.

Even today, I bet if I recounted to my mom or aunt some actions of theirs that, in retrospect, clearly crossed the line into physical abuse, I bet they'd find some way to justify and rationalize it.[/quote]

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