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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, MIT

1b. Columbia, Caltech

2. UChicago, UPenn, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst, Cornell, Dartmouth

3?. Vanderbilt, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona

3b. Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. Emory, UVA, UMich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC[/quote]

Emory isn't 4, not with its test score avg, Goizueta, and premed. [/quote]

Williams, Amherst and Swarthmore are all the same and should be tier 2 or 2b at least.    Why are you selling them short and behind Northwestern, JH, Penn CAS, Duke ?  No way. [/quote]

I could be wrong but I wouldn't but Williams and Amhearst on the same level as Duke. In fact, I feel as though I was being generous and I initially had Williams and Amhearst at 3 and Swarthmore at 3b. I think 20 years ago Williams was on Duke's level but not anymore. I don't think students would regularly pick Williams over Duke. [/quote]

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