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[quote=Anonymous]I WAS NEVER TALKING ABOUT GUN CONTROL!

I was talking about the link between violence and mental illness. Stop moving the goalposts. Poster has repeatedly excoriated me for stating exactly the TRUTH and FACTS about the rates of violence among those who are mentally ill, and repeatedly stated that 99% or more of people with mental  illness are not violent, a clear and dangerous lie.

Finally, the only thing I did state about gun control remains true: that it won’t screen out many of the unstable mentally ill people who purchase guns legally - like the Colorado grocery store shooter and the young men in this thread - because the prohibition only applies to people who have been involuntarily committed due to mental illness and that is exceedingly rare. With the exception of states that have passed red flag laws, most mentally ill people won’t be subject to a prohibition on purchasing guns and ammunition under current gun control laws.

And yes, substance abuse is a primary factor behind violent acts and as anyone who actually knows anything about mental illness knows, there is a very high rate of self-medicating and co-occurring mental health disorder and substance abuse disorder, and as the sentence you’ve not highlighted makes clear, in that situation the rate of violence among the mentally ill DOUBLES.

This is not a game. Getting one up on me isn’t the objective, unless you are just an asshole. And you won’t ‘win’ anyway because you are peddling lies. What matters here is that we have serious discussions in our communities about the mental health crisis that is rampant in our country.

Maybe you won’t care until your kids go back to school and are subject to the other end of a gun held by an unstable mentally ill schoolmate. Or at the grocery store. Or Walmart. Or synagogue. Or the movies.

Stop playing games. This isn’t funny. [/quote]

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