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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news.  UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful. 
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.[/quote]

Georgetown is ranked 23.  UVA is ranked 26.  UMD is ranked 58.  UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's.  UMD's is the same as Syracuse's.  UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and [i]ahead[/i] of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U.  UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

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[b]UMD is ranked in the 50's for world reputation rankings (both USNews and ARWU) while UVA is >100 for both (ranked "150-200" by ARWU).[/b][/quote]

Based entirely on research output.  Has nothing to do with undergraduate reputation and little to do with US reputation.[/quote]
1. Research output is entirely why schools like MIT, Harvard, Caltech, Stanford et. al. and routinely considered among the best. [b]To argue research has nothing to do with undergraduate reputation is utterly ignorant.
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2. The USNews global rankings is based on world reputation, [i]not[/i] research output. Meaning they surveyed academics from across the world. Which is much better than what the USNews Reputation Ranking does, surveying American high school counselors (lmao)

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The University of Washington has higher research output than MIT, Harvard, Caltech, or Stanford.  Does your theory hold up there?  [/quote]
Yes, University of Washington is well-recognized for being a great university. But I find it interesting how you point out one supposed discrepancy but not the rest of the list, which matches extremely well with academic prestige of the university among industry and graduate schools. [/quote]

Does it?  Is Johns Hopkins the most prestigious U.S. university?  Or does it happen to have a large government facility located in Laurel Maryland associated with it for reporting purposes?  Is Michigan the second most prestigious U.S. university or is it just really big and have a huge focus on research?   Are 17 schools more important than MIT or do they just happen to have medical schools/medical centers attached to them while MIT does not?  Likewise, are 67 schools more prestigious and influential than Princeton or again, are they ranked higher solely because almost all of them have medical schools/medical centers attached to them while Princeton does not?
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Johns Hopkins is unironically prestigious specifically because of its top medical research school, which has absolutely nothing to do with undergraduate education. Washington University at St. Louis is another university that has become very academically reputed due to its stellar medical school.

So yes, research brings lay prestige. Compare Purdue to University of Georgia, which has more lay prestige, despite Georgia being ranked higher?

Why is UNC so well reputed, despite being 90% in-state students? Research output. [/quote]

Hopkins is top in research because of the Applied Physics Laboratory, not because of the medical school (not to say the medical school doesn't do a lot of research).  Over 60% of its total comes through the Applied Physics Lab.

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