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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Living in American is privilege in itself. Folks really need to travel overseas to get a true appreciation for what they have here.

Also, handouts never worked and never will work. The more you give the more people want. People wonder how "immigrants" have done so well  to include cars, homes and wealth. That's because most don't expect the government to bail them out. Even working 2-3 jobs they will make more than they ever would back home![/quote]

I was in Sweden a few years ago. I definitely did not come back here with an appreciation for much of anything except cheaper clothing.

So how do countries like Germany, Denmark, etc. still succeed while supporting their people? Why aren't we comparing ourselves to them?[/quote]

I’m from a Nordic country and the Nordic countries do it with oil wealth, which is ultimately not sustainable because that money will run out, that’s why there’s such a drive to invest in other industries. Inequality is definitely growing there, look at the latest poverty numbers there. There’s also a huge pressure to conform. Every lives the same way, dresses the same, drives the same car. If someone gets a fancy car, they’re looked down upon. Immigrants trying to practice their own customs? Better assimilate as quickly as possible. Black people? My relatives are all closet racists that make people in the Southern US look quaint. Comparing tiny countries with very similar people to the diversity and size of the US makes no sense. [/quote]

+1. I'm from Germany and all the high achievers I know from school immigrated to or want to be in the US for better career opportunities. Also, serious lack of diversity in Germany -- the strong social nets only work because the beneficiaries are mostly other white Germans. Look what happened during the refugee crisis in Europe -- no countries wanted to accept them and provide them with the benefits. [/quote]

All these Americans who romanticize the Nordic countries make me laugh. It’s quite obvious they’ve never actually lived there. Go live in Sweden OP, if they’ll let you (they make our immigration policies look completely open door). Have fun bicycling everywhere in the winter because cars are taxed so heavily, have fun owning nothing in property because the loans are so crazy. And if you like your cronyism and nepotism extremely blatant, have I got some Nordic families to introduce you to. A few own everything- supermarkets, gas stations, fishing rights, etc. Also good luck in making any friends if you’re brown or black. [/quote]

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