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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^Please name one US Top 50 college where being Asian or Asian-American provides an affirmative action benefit. [/quote]

Many LACs.  Wash Lee for one.

The point is not where the underrepresentation is, the point is it is applied across all races equally.

Also, your requirement that it be "top 50 college" is an embarrassing tell.  Why should any ranking determine what racial balance a college thinks it needs?  [/quote]

Bob and Bill are both low income, first generation college applicants applying out of state to Berkeley with identical, impressive stats. ECs are roughly equivalent.  Bob is Black and checks the African American box on the app, while Bill is Hmong and checks the Asian box on the app.  Granted the app allows further drill down on those categories, but colleges generally report demographics in the broad categories of Black, Asian, etc.  On that basis, who has the greater chance of getting into Berkeley, Bob or Bill?[/quote]

Berkley? Bob.

Howard?  Bill.

Get it now?[/quote]

Bill didn’t apply to Howard.  He has the stats and credentials, and wants to attend Berkeley. Perhaps it is tops in the major he wishes to pursue.

Also, do we really think that Bob would be disadvantaged as compared to Bill if both were applying to Howard?[/quote]

What Bill wants is meaningless, and irrelevant to whether it is fair.

Yes, Bob would be disadvantaged compared to Bill when applying to Howard.

As is evidenced by the gender-specific example of Vassar provided above.[/quote]

At the end of the day, Bob does better in applications to Berkeley, Howard (it’s a HBCU after all) and Vassar - as well as pretty much any other school in roughly the Top 50 (i.e., a school where there is competition for seats) as compared to Bill.  Bill stands slightly less than a snowball’s chance at Berkeley and much lower chances than Bob at other competitive schools.  The point is that Bill is the Asian version of Bob, but Bill is disadvantaged generally across the board when it comes to institutions that are competitive in filling their seats.  (For institutions that need applicants as a general matter, presumably the two would have an equal chance.) [/quote]

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