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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]+1. As a European, it's really interesting to watch American liberals make this "you are on your own, fend for yourselves" argument when it comes to kids and families during the pandemic, while on the other hand calling for a "we are all in this together" approach when it comes to virus containment. European societies take a much more holistic approach to public health and community solidarity, one that balances the well-being and education of kids and the ability of families to maintain jobs with the need to contain the spread to protect those vulnerable to the virus, and most importantly, keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. That's why they are STILL keeping schools at least partially open in many places (misleading headlines notwithstanding), and will certainly not keep them closed for the rest of the year.[/quote]

Thank you for this. I am an American but it is disturbing to me how much I hear liberal Americans espousing a view on the pandemic that is so focused on "personal responsibility" which is the same argument conservatives use to deny welfare benefits to single mothers or refuse asylum to immigrants.

The best possible response to a pandemic is communal. I think it can be hard to remember that in the US, where we have such an individualistic culture. Combine it with all the misinformation circulating (yes, I'm talking to you, PP who keeps posting links to a bunch of headlines in tweets to make your argument instead of engaging with what people are actually saying in the thread) and it's a recipe for disaster. If we leave families to just figure all of this out on their own, we will leave behind the vast majority of families.[/quote]

It amuses me how parents here think they can just wish away data and scientific analysis. All spring and summer you were screaming for schools to open because 'kids aren't affected'. Now Europe/UK are reeling from a surge in viral cases and a mutation linked from their 'open no matter what' policies. It also turns out kids are carriers who are highly efficient at spreading the virus. Now you just want to ignore all that and still open schools because little Susie needs companionship.

Sorry. Gates closed. Figure it out.[/quote]

You don’t have science on your side if you are arguing that open schools caused the surge in Europe. Please stop pretending you do.[/quote]

Wow. Wrong again.

[b]Reopening schools following coronavirus lockdowns is linked to a surge in transmissions within a month, according to the first study to look at the impact of lifting restrictions on the R rate.

Children’s return to classrooms was followed by an average 24-per-cent rise in the R transmission number, University of Edinburgh researchers found after analysing data from 131 countries.[/b]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-r-rate-school-closures-lockdown-lancet-study-b1251617.html?amp

Peer-reviewed study = [url]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30785-4[/url][/quote]

Did you actually read the study? It literally says "For SARS-CoV-2, the role of children in its transmission is still unclear." It also admits that no analysis was done regarding the differing effect of opening high schools vs elementary schools, which they acknowledge as a serious limitation, "since the effect might differ by finer age bands within school-age children and adolescents." They also acknowledge that they did not account for various hygiene measures that were or were not taken in schools, and which could make a big difference.

Bottom line, this is far from conclusive. And while nobody (that I'm aware of) says that schools play NO role in transmission, the question remains whether their role is big enough to warrant keeping them closed for over a year. Most experts believe that an honest and comprehensive evaluation of the trade-offs will conclude that it is not.[/quote]

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