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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.[/quote]
They might be as "good", but they are certainly not as prestigious.

Even a "Ivy" like Dartmouth, which is in reality is an above-average LAC, would be more prestigious in the minds of the wealthy and powerful than say, JHU or Chicago. Entirely due to its association with the Ivy League and schools like Harvard and Princeton. Sure, upper-middle-class educated folks might think otherwise, but they are middle-managers, not board room members.[/quote]

No one thinks that way except Dartmouth grads, lmao.[/quote]
Go to a New England country club and ask which college is more "prestigious", Dartmouth or U. Chicago/Johns Hopkins.

U. Chicago was essentially a commuter school for the longest time. Hopkins is a medical school that happens to have an English department. They won't even know what a Northwestern is, would consider it akin to a state school.

I'm not saying the students at U. Chicago and Hopkins aren't brighter than Dartmouth - they probably are. Nor am I saying grad schools would prefer Dartmouth students over U. Chicago or Hopkins - they probably wouldn't.

But there's a difference between prestige and academics. Prestige is a very nebulous concept based on elite historical connections, not on merit or even academics.

There's a reason some would consider a school like UVa more prestigious than Berkeley or Michigan despite being far worse academically...One was founded by a founding father and was regularly attended by the wealthy Southern elites, while the latter two are massive, technical-focused universities. [/quote]

You truly have no idea what you're talking about and it's clear you've never been anywhere even remotely near a "New England country club." This comment reeks of misguided striver nonsense.[/quote]

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