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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How do we know all these "I need my kids out of the house moms" - insert reason - their education; I need to work; its not good for the poor brown kids - aren't actually teenagers trolling on DCUM.[/quote]

I literally have not heard a single poster here say "I need my kids out of the house."  I've heard many posters claiming that is the motivation of parents who want school to open.  But posters have all almost uniformly focused on their kids social and educational needs that are not (cannot be) served in DL.  "I need my kids out of the house" is a toxic WTU caricature to deflect blame.  [/quote]

Look back at other threads.  The reasons to send kids back as the infection rates soar, people traveling to hot zones for thanksgiving and during flu season have been shifting:
1. I need my kids out of the house
2. Think of how this is hurting poor brown kids I have never known or seen
3. Think of the moms who can't afford a nanny
4. My sped kid can't learn on DL
5. My kid isn't learning from DL
6. If private schools are open why can't we

It changes - they keep shifting the argument to see which one will stick to get them sympathy.  [/quote]

Meanwhile, arguments from teachers have been remarkably consistent:

1. When rates went up: 
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate your kids!“

2. When rates went down to almost zero:
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate your kids!“

3. When private schools reopened:
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate your kids!“

4. When asked to be part of the solution and find reasonable ways of reopening:
“I don’t wanna DIE! You must hate your kids!”

5. When presented with science that DL is hurting kids and schools aren’t actually superspreaders:
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate your kids!“

6. Next year, when offered to get vaccinated: 
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate their kids!”

7. In 2027, after everyone else on the planet has been vaccinated: 
“I don’t wanna DIE!!! You must hate their kids!”

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You forgot - "You all hate black and brown kids, we know that their families are at higher risk."[/quote]
This thread is about NYC schools, where very few black and brown kids opted in to “in person” schooling. So, maybe don’t? All the crazed lunatics advocating for schools to open amidst a surge (in a city with 24,000 COVID deaths) are white. Take a look a the videos of people protesting last week. Do you see black and brown families there, screaming about wanting to see the manager of the coronavirus? No. [/quote]

wow yeah, that's right.  all the parents who think it's terrible that you can only be educated if you have the money for private schools are Karens.

BTW lots of prominent black advocates for public education think schools should reopen. check out Nikole Hannah Jones' twitter feeds. [/quote]

Nikole Hannah Jones is brilliant, but she is an education expert, not a public health expert. And it really doesn't matter what she thinks -- she isn't going to convince the average Black or Latino parent in NYC or DC.

The PP's point remains -- the loudest voices HERE IN DC are white people. Talk to them, figure out why they are concerned or if they share your goals, and how to address the concerns of people whose experiences are different than yours. Because you're never going to get anywhere unless your protests look like DC.[/quote]

How do you know the loudest voices HERE IN DC are white people?  And that's funny that you're dismissing Nikole Hannah Jones as an "education expert" ... as if that's not relevant here?  Shifting the goal posts again?  [/quote]

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