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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LoOk aT tHaT pOsSeSsiOn oMG!!

https://www.fotmob.com/livescores/3411437?status=finished[/quote]

I went to the new stadium before lockdown to see them play Chelsea live, I know Tottenham, and believe me, SYC is no Tottenham, other than the fact that neither is in the elite tier of their respective leagues.  Move and embarrass you and your club no further.[/quote]

So make your case that Tottenham isn't in the "elite tier" of the EPL.

The stats to the contrary: Over the last 11 years, the following clubs are the *only* clubs to finish ahead of Spurs even once:

Chelsea: 8 times
Manchester City: 8 times
Arsenal: 7 times, none in the last 4 
Manchester United: 7 times, less frequently since Fergie retired
Liverpool: 3 times
Leicester: 2 times 
Everton: 1 time

The average league position of these clubs:

Manchester City: 2.27 
Manchester United: 3.55
Chelsea: 3.55
Tottenham: 4.27
Arsenal: 4.27
Liverpool: 5.00 
Leicester: 8.33 (since promotion)

Same test, past *five* years:

Chelsea: 3 times
Manchester City: 3 times
Manchester United: 2 times
Liverpool: 2 times
Leicester: 2 times 
Arsenal: 1 time 
Everton: 0 times

Average league position over the past five years:

Manchester City: 2.2
Tottenham: 3.6
Liverpool: 3.8
Manchester United: 4.4
Chelsea: 4.6
Arsenal: 5.2
Leicester: 7.2 
Everton: 9.2

So in the early 2010s, Spurs would rank roughly fifth behind Chelsea, Arsenal and the Manchester clubs.

In the late 2010s, only Manchester City has a definitive case for being better. Over the last two years, add Liverpool.

By any measure, they're in the top five in the deepest professional league (maybe second-deepest, depending on how you rate Spain) in the world. [/quote]

Don't be ridiculous:

There's only one measure of whether a team is elite or not - it's silverware.  Specifically premier league titles and european chamionships, with a half point thrown in for an FA cup.

Years since Spurs last won an EPL:  infinity (they last won the English first division 60 years ago)
Years since Spurs last won a European Championship:  infinity
Years since Spurs last won an FA cup: 30

They haven't won a thing in the last thirty years.  They're an also ran - behind every single one of the clubs you mentioned and many others.  Losers from start to finish.[/quote]

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