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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unpopular opinion, I know.  But maybe having more parents at home will bring back family values.  [/quote]

No, if anything, a lot of marriages are going through unprecedented stress right now and probably won't make it or will be dealing with the negative consequences for years.[/quote]

Yes, it's so sad too.  They're trying to maintain pre-covid lives and it's causing unneeded stress.  If only they could downsize, simplify and enjoy what they have.[/quote]

If only they could downsize (= happily lose their job and health insurance, and give up those pesky mortgage and grocery payments) and enjoy what they have, everything would be rosy.[/quote]

They can downsize. Rent an apartment to live in and rent out the SFH. The rent from the SFH might not entirely offset the lost second income, but it is better than nothing. We’re currently looking for a 3 br, 2 BA SFH in 20910 and am struggling to find a place under $2200/mo. Many places are going for $3-5000/mo. They should rent in Western MD or some other COLA for a year and things will probably be much better by then.

But stop crying over things that poor families have always faced. [/quote]

I am a dual-income familiy IN A RENTAL. We have never been able to afford a SFH.

We cannot give up the second job. Something would have to give. Here, I'll let you choose. Should we give up health insurance, the rent, or our groceries?

And before you start screaming about luxuries: we have one smartphone and one 10-year-old car between three people. Our last vacation was in 2015.[/quote]

You can afford a cheaper rental elsewhere then.

We’re also in a rental. Stuck here because of a custody agreement with my XH and can’t move from MoCo for 4 more years. Look in the exurbs for a place that is $900-1200/mo. And consider working at Walmart or other retail job that would allow you to schedule opposite your spouse. Working class people have to figure this out all the time. Your situation isn’t remarkable, it’s just new to you.[/quote]

And why would you think that these difficulties should be what everyone is reduced to, rather than implementing policies that don’t screw over working class families?[/quote]

Middle class people are just now getting outraged about the issues that working class families have always dealt with. That’s what irritates me. That we’re supposed to catch religion now that it’s you suffering.[/quote]

Ah so there is an agenda here- bitterness.[/quote]

My agenda would be that going forward middle class people not assume they are smarter or better than people who are struggling and instead be allies. Isn’t that that a good agenda?[/quote]

There's no bitterness like that of formerly middle-class people who finally realize they've become one of THOSE people. They denied it for years, even as they moved far away from jobs in order to find affordable places to live in higher-ranked public school districts. They had no sympathy for the people they considered their inferiors, the "uneducated" "working" class. (Of course, the "working" class distinction is ridiculous on its face. The middle class also works, doing fundamentally the same thing as the "working" class -- making the rich richer -- just in more comfortable offices.) Now they realize that they're essentially in the same boat, and it stings.[/quote]

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