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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Returning to the original question, I would not spend out of state tuition to send my kids for undergraduate studies at one of University of California schools (such as Berkeley or UCLA) due to terrible budget concerns and overcrowding that cause [b]kids to take 6 years to graduate, on average.    [/b][/quote]

I don’t understand this comment. [b]The four year grad rate at UCLA and Berkeley is 77% and 75% [/b]respectively. With the exception of UVA and W&M, that’s right on par with other top publics. [/quote]

yeah but 77% is Terrible.  UVa is like 94%. [/quote]
For large public universities it is good. UVA is 89%.

Going down the list of top 25 USNews public colleges:
UCLA - 77%
UCB - 75%
Michigan - 79%
UVA - 89%
Georgia Tech - 40% 
UNC - 82%
UCSB - 70%
University of Florida - 68%
UC Irvine - 68%
UC San Diego - 62%
UC Davis - 61%
William and Mary - 85%
Wisconsin - 62%
Illinois - 70%
Texas - 61%
Georgia - 66%
Ohio State - 59%
Florida State - 66%
Penn State - 66%
Purdue - 56%
Pitt - 65%
Rutgers - 61%
University of Washington - 67%
Umass - 71%
UMD - 70%
UConn - 73%

Now, if PP wanted to make the argument that she wouldn’t send her kid to large publics as a whole because their graduate rates tend to be lower than privates, that would be fair. But to single out the UC schools as having low graduation rates is an argument that does not hold water. It’s a large public school thing, not a UC school thing. [/quote]

I always knew Georgia Tech was a pathetically terrible school, despite being one of the top engineering research universities and being smaller than UVA in size.

Or perhaps comparing world-renowned and rigorous engineering-focused schools like Berkeley and Georgia Tech to liberal arts focused 
that's generally considered easy like UVA, 4-year graduation rates is not the correct metric

Engineering simply takes far more required courses, and these required courses tend to have required pre-requisites that go in order, and these required courses are difficult enough that even top students sometimes - shock - have to re-take the course and can't go on to the next course in the sequence.

Compare that to many liberal arts courses where after you've written a high-school level writing course, you can take senior level courses as a freshman.

CMU 4-year graduation rate: 72%
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