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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think my agency would go back and reconsider an incomplete or incorrect application but I would imagine that is at each agency’s discretion. However once they start doing it for one person they have to reconsider people all the time and then you’re back at square one. You said your wife works in HR, she doesn’t know anyone in the staffing office that she can call and ask questions if she’s confused?[/quote] Sorry for the multiple responses too, I just keep rereading what you said and think I need to clarify. Her application was in no way incorrect or incomplete. She would have been referred if they would have included her into the military spouse category. They just aren't including her into the category when she does in fact belong in that category. Its a little different to say someone filled out the application the wrong way or left it incomplete. In that case I totally agree. Furthermore, I just need to know if one category trumps another category as far as the referral process. Whether or not she clicked the right block for her category is irrelevant if we just know that. [/quote] I know that you don’t believe in this case that her application was incorrect and that’s fine. In my office, if HR made an error in processing the application then they would and have corrected that error by adding someone to a cert or referring them. Also you keep using the term “hiring authority” but a hiring authority is the law or reg that allows someone to be appointed to a position. The selecting official is the person who decides which applicant they want to choose. Just a point of clarification. HR looks at the applications before the selecting official to determine if they’re complete, apply OPM’s qualifications, rank applicants in accordance with Delegated Examining or merit promotion policies, adjudicate preference, and so on. The selecting official cannot be expected to do all of that on their own. [/quote] I think when I say hiring authority I was confusing it with the terminology used by HR which is hiring official, if that makes more sense. Are you saying that if HR makes a mistake they can correct the error by referring them after the fact? Thats one thing I want to know. I think more importantly I want to know if military spouse preference actually does block any other applicants from being referred, because everything I've read so far on OPM's site says the exact opposite. [/quote] Yes I am saying that if HR made an error in processing the application it can be remedied. I don’t know enough about this job posting or hiring authority to say whether or not a military spouse can “block” anyone else. I have a feeling that what they’re doing is above board but they’re not explaining it well. I would recommend calmly and politely talking to a supervisor and asking them to explain what’s going on. [/quote] Thats the plan. They keep closing the case though after their brief explanations that only bring more questions. These are her words that I have a problem with "For this vacancy announcement, multiple qualified Priority Program Preference for Military Spouses were referred to the hiring official. By law, qualified Priority Program Preference for Military Spouses block all new appointments to the Federal government, which this would have been a new appointment for you." My problem is finding the rules about this "law". Yet to find it. So again, even though my wife does fit into the same category as the military spouse preference applications, they are coming up with this law that they are saying prevents her from even being referred. [/quote] I Google searched this for you in 2 seconds: https://www.dcpas.osd.mil/Content/Documents/PPP-Program%20S.pdf. What they’re doing is completely legal according to the rules of this program. I know you are mad someone successfully outgamed you and your wife using a preference technicality, but it is what it is. Imagine how it feels to be those of us who are long-term contractors and literally cannot get referred because of various preference and special hiring authorities. You know your wife *can* be referred, so suck it up, move on, and keep it trying. [/quote] Now it makes more sense. You are some dope contractor that thinks everyone owes you something. I got news for you, you won't find any prior military that feels one bit sorry for you since you are the ones doing the same jobs we do for 5X the salary. You likely make more money as a contractor than my wife would make as a GS employee, but we are supposed to feel sorry for you because our preference we get for serving in the military. Oh and sorry, but your 2 second google search didn't tell me anything I didn't already know and have been explaining here over and over. The program you are referring to does not, I repeat DOES NOT give preference over other categories. Not only that but the same program entitles spouses of 100 percent disabled veterans to be placed in the exact same category. I've already explained this. You clearly arent here to provide any expert advice. So please, just move on, and congrats on your huge salary and contract. Look up Executive Order 13473[/quote] FYI I’m the other poster in this conversation and I did not post the reply with the google search and link. So most of the time you were not talking with a contractor, but a federal HR specialist. [/quote] In that case I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the gentleman who declared himself a long time federal contractor who was angry that veterans got preference points when applying for federal jobs. [/quote]
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