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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I went to an Ivy but was accepted to both Duke and UVA. Duke offers more of an Ivy-like experience, but think Dartmouth-like behavior in faux-Princeton buildings with some Penn-like professional schools. I’m not sure the arrogant frat-boy culture at Duke is unique, but it is more obvious because the frats are right in the center of West Campus (or at least they used to be), not on the fringe as at many schools. UVA has certain elements of a private-school culture, due to its history and location, but once you get outside the main grounds it’s basically like any other state university, which means most live off-campus and have to take ownership of their education because they aren’t going to be coddled like they would be at some pricey SLAC.[/quote] This. OP raised a wrong question. Yes Duke is only marginally better in terms of reputation. And yes UVa is definetely cheaper. But why is UVa so much cheaper? Obviosly that’s because it’s a state school. So how come so many parents send their kids to pricey private colleges when they can send kids to cheaper public institutes? [b]That’s because there are other intangibles that they can obtain only at private schools like better student care, connections with wealthy people, etc. [/b] So the question should be whether the OP should pay the premium for those intangibles (plus marginally better reputation) at Duke. [/quote] You're clueless. UVA has one of the highest graduation rates in the country -- again, higher than Duke -- which is as good a proxy as any for "student care." [b]It also has one of the wealthiest student bodies in America. [/b] Try again.[/quote] Is that 1) a good thing? and 2) is it true? New York Times diversity analysis shows UVA at number 79 in median family income, which is high, but not among wealthiest. Colorado College at #1 was at $278K median vs. $156K for UVA. Duke was at $187K. [/quote] Wow, the difference between $187K and $156K is YUGE. That's, what, one vacation to Aspen? [/quote] Do you want to go to a college with the wealthiest students? A number of the privates use their wealth to provide more attractive financial aid for low to middle income families. As a result, they can be lower than publics in median income. Columbia and Cornell have lower median incomes than publics William & Mary, UVA, and Michigan. Wellesley is lower than Virginia Tech. [/quote]
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