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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I will never ever support Gabbard.  She is an apologist for one of the worst dictators and human rights violators in the modern world at the moment (perhaps only topped by NK and systematic re-education camps being run by the Chinese in their muslim areas.)

The Syrian revolution started as a peaceful protest movement within Syria, as had been occurring in most other countries during the Arab Spring.

Assad chose to respond violently to the peaceful, non-violent protests when they started drawing hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters.  He used violence because he knew that he could not hold onto power otherwise.

Cynically, he also used torture, disappearance and mass execution.  Please see the numerous stories and documentations by Cesar - a police photographer who escaped  Syria with tons of documentation of Assad's torture regime.  Here is just one story about him -- https://www.goalglobal.org/stories/post/what-are-the-caesar-photographs.

[b]Gabbard supports Assad and has met personally with him.  During last week's democratic debate, she repeatedly described the Syrian revolution as a "regime change war" started by the Americans.  Nothing could be further than the truth.  Syrian citizens wanted to change their own society and were met by the ruthless hand of a dictator who would maintain his own personally power by any means necessary (which includes not just torture but barrel bombs and the use of chemical weapons against civilians and the systematic bombing of civilian hospitals.)

That is why I hate her and will never vote for her.  She is either stupid or so cynical as to profit politically from association with a brutal dictator.[/b]  [/quote]

THIS!!!! She completely lied in the debate. The Syrian war started when domestic Syrians began peacefully protesting against the regime. Who doesn't remember Assad's "barrel bombs" he dropped en mass on Muslim neighborhoods across Syria?[/quote]

Obama drew the red-line and did nothing.  And people are acting like what Assad is or what he did is news. It's not, we know who he is and who he always was.  It's not different.

Assad is an ass, no one disputes that fact.  But there's also no dispute the Syrians were by and large safer then they were now.  
We trained and armed nearly 10,000 rebel fighters at a cost of $1 billion a year. The CIA had been sending weapons to anti-government rebels in Syria since at least 2012. Some of these weapons reportedly fell into hands of extremists, such as al-Nusra Front and ISIL.  it wsn't until Trump that "[ISIL] imploded right after external support for the 'moderate' rebels dried up," which is consistent with studies demonstrating that "external support for thea opposition tends to exacerbate and extend civil wars, which usually peter out not through power-sharing agreements among fighting equals, but when one side—typically, the incumbent—achieves dominance."

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-abrahms-glaser-isis-assad-20171210-story.html

So that last administration was funding the atrocities we were actually trying to stop. With Assad we know what we were dealing with, with the "rebels" we got a lot of terrorists.

Sticking with Assad would have been the safer choice.  Or at least if we outed him, placing him with someone better instead of arming a bunch of savages. [/quote]

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