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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Which buildings are you thinking of that are currently for sale and don't have existing tenants?[/quote]

Why do they have to buy the buildings? That would add to the time and capital cost. They would just need to lease full floors and ensure isolated access to the school floors (dedicated elevators). I'm not saying it's easy but it allows flexibility that traditional campuses don't allow. How long was Reed coming? Alternatively, why not comingle say a school and a library on different floors?[/quote]

[b]There are also plenty of examples of developers willing t[b]o give a building or land[/b] in order to get a right of way ect [/b]and they are always turned down. If there was a will there would be a way and building conversation whether it be office to modular units or schools are not as expensive as we think if we don't shoot for the stars over design issues like we tend to do. I think the real problem is parents unwilling to see their kids in an office building. [/quote]
Such as?[/quote]
DP - there were two during the S outh Arlington Working Group period: Dominion Arms across from TJ where Fleet was built, and Vornado in Pentagon City.[/quote]

Uh, no. [b]They weren’t proposing giving away office or apartment buildings. They were proposing giving vacant land for schools, in exchange for bonus density[/b]. APS would be on the hook to construct buildings on that land. The county attorney says that’s not allowed, but they can give donations to the AH fund or build units of AH within luxury properties to get the additional density. Vornado no longer exists, and JBG Smith isn’t going to give away any land in National Landing for either schools OR affordable housing. [/quote]

The county attorney keeps saying it’s not allowed, but as far as I know has refused to provide a written opinion to that effect, and I believe other nearby jurisdictions have done this.  But either way, that’s not within the SB’s control because it’s a county decision rather than an APS decision.[/quote]

Yes, just as the PP indicated.  Land in exchange for something.  Nobody said they were offering to build a school for us.  And the County attorney has a tendency to say anything that's new/different from what we've done before is not allowed  It's a bunch of crap.  The County can do land deals whenever they want - VHC, for example.  Even though Vornado's current status is completely irrelevant to the point that offers have been made, of course JBG Smith certainly isn't going to do it now that Amazon is coming.  Perfect example of "I told you so" when people told APS and AC take it when it's offered, these opportunities aren't going to come around again.

To the PP stating it's an APS decision, not a County decision:  it's both.  APS needs to clearly tell CB we need such and such and then the CB is more likely to pursue options.  But when APS is always quick to say "we're not interested," the County has no incentive to pursue farther.  And the CB could start telling APS they need to consider offers and opportunities more seriously and think beyond "the way we've always done it" or "it's too complicated" or "it doesn't fit our timeline."  Really?  Like APS has done so well accommodating growth according to the timeline of need?[/quote]

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