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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is what evidence looks like. And it uses all schools in Maryland, not cherry-picked schools in MoCo. Shocker... it says that proportion of FARMS students is related to outcomes. I've got plenty more pieces of evidence if you'd like. https://education.umd.edu/research/centers/mep/research/k-12-education/does-school-composition-matter-estimating-relationship[/quote]

From the MD report: “The variation in PARCC school proficiency rates is highly correlated with the percentage of low- income students enrolled in a school. An increase in the percentage of low-income students in a school is associated with a decrease in a school proficiency rate on the PARCC assessments. The relationship is clearest at the state level, where the low-income student enrollment corresponds to nearly two thirds (R2=0.62) of the difference in proficiency rates between schools. ”

No one denies that more low income students=low test scores at school levels as well as county levels.  The  problem is that many people believe the myth that low income students perform better in schools with less low income students. [/quote]
Exactly low income equals dumb, what don’t people get?? :roll: [/quote]

Low income doesn't mean stupid. Low income means less opportunities and more struggles.[/quote]

While that's also true, it's also quite true that poor people (in general) are less intelligent than well off people.  Intelligence is one of the attributes that leads to higher income.  All testing shows this.  In addition, when they look at social mobility using the NLSY (https://www.nlsinfo.org/content/cohorts/nlsy97) high IQ poor people move out of poverty at very high rates.  Interestingly, the NLSY mobility statistics are the same across racial groups.[/quote]

The chicken or egg argument, is they were so smart why are they poor? Oppression you say, why are they so susceptible to oppression?  Why are some people tigers and some people lambs and then how are all people equal? [/quote]
 I read an article (maybe someone linked it on this thread) where exposure to a subject matter outside of school could lead to scoring better on tests, but all things being equal, upper income kids may not do any better.

For example: students read about some subject matter that neither the low income nor the upper income student had been exposed to, then they had to answer some questions about it. Students from both income groups got it wrong.  The upper income student didn't comprehend the text any better than the lower income student.

Upper income students have parents who can help them with HW, expose them to science and LA outside of school.  Lower income students do not.

I grew up lower income, and my parents didn't speak any English, so no help with HW. My only exposure was the TV, and I'm not talking quality TV; I'm talking Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry.  I didn't score well on my SATs (never took a practice test or went to tutoring), but with luck, some hard work, and family support, I was able to go to college (C rated state school), and eventually end up making good money.  We expose our kids to all kinds of things, provide them with enrichment, including some workbooks, and they score much better on standardized tests.

It's about opportunities and having the financial support that usually leads to outcome, and not always about IQ.  Heck, the man in the WH didn't do well in school (low IQ perhaps) and only got to where he is because of his daddy's money.[/quote]

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