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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.[/b] [/quote]
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No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room.  It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period!  If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born.  The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools.  Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control.   This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility?   Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world?    We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age  that is not okay to breed children into poverty.  Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.  [/quote]

This sounds like eugenics.[/quote]

Free birth control and forced birth control are two different things.

As to the rest of it, middle class and higher generally stick to having children only in wedlock.  Teaching to lower classes some of  the same behaviors that higher classes use to achieve and maintain more stability would seem to be behavior that demonstrates a desire for equity.[/quote]

Yeah, I’m with the poster saying that human breeding is an odd phrase to use.  That’s why it comes off sounding like you’re advocating eugenics.  Like we need something to stop these dirty breeding people I don’t like from breeding.  [b]It doesn’t come across as compassionate at all.[/b][/quote]
[b]We already wasted funds and precious time on being compassionate.  Compassion is why we are in this mess in the first place.     It is time that we cut off the weaker links because our civilization depends on it.[/b]  One day we are going to wake up and wonder what happen to public education in the USA.    Debating semantics and word choice are a complete waste of time.   Breed, bred, birth, have....who the Hell cares?  Schools across the country are suffering from the influx of poverty students and you want to debate about the utilization of the word breed? :roll:

We have more crucial things to loose sleep over.   People in poverty  having access to birth control is way more important.  Not wasting resources is way more important.  Decreasing crime is way more important.  You need to spend some time in developing countries because this is what we as a nation are up against.

Why do you oppose educating impoverished people about birth control and family planning?   Would you rather see our public schools overpopulated with FARM students?   Would you rather schools waste resources and time playing Mommy and Daddy to impoverished students?   Besides wasting money on 18 years of childcare, would it not be cost effective to provide free abortions or birth control instead?  I would rather fund a birth control project than to have public schools take on the struggle of dealing with impoverished students.

We need to address poverty and prevent it.  We do not need schools to use their limited resources on an issue that the larger society refuses to address.   [/quote]
This reminds me of the opening scene in the movie "300" where all the weak babies were thrown off a mountain, and there were piles of dead babies who were considered weak in the ravine.

I watched a documentary once about I think  the Inuits and how they lived about 100 years ago, where they would leave the old grandparents behind and move on (they were nomadic) because they were just a burden.  Of course, those old people died fairly quickly.

According to PP, this is how we should live.  Leave the weakest ones behind.  I would think our society would've evolved by the 21st century. Sadly not.[/quote]

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