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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To circle back to the point that I should teach TKAM to disabuse students of racism and prejudice - as I’ve stated, I have to weigh the outcome vs. students sitting in my room being traumatized by a story or hearing their peers say very hurtful things that I then correct... but that they still heard. They have to sit and have the humanity of Black people (Tom) justified. It’s hard for me to inflict that on kids I care about.

Beyond that- those are the exact conversations that teachers get in trouble for because parents claim we are calling their kids racists or saying all white  people are bad or indoctrinating them or “getting too political.” We really are damned if we do or don’t. I’d encourage you to have those conversations at home as much as possible. [/quote]

Oh my. This is a shame. I hope other teachers don’t follow your lead. Good intentions, but so much is being lost in this model, as so many have pointed out. Good luck. [/quote]

The people in this thread don’t even trust me to do my job in the most basic way (like you really think we don’t have discussions or do anything in class if I let them pick books and I’ve spent 8 pages justifying I do know how to teach better than people who aren’t teachers) yet you mean to suggest you expect me to have these conversations with your kids? That doesn’t make sense. There’s no trust between parents and teachers that allows for those conversations to be productive. In theory, they should be in classes. In reality, the parents always get upset and email us / admin to stop being political or insinuating their personal beliefs are bad. [/quote]

The people on this thread don't trust you to do your job because what you're saying makes no sense from the perspective of preparing kids for higher learning.  You don't need to interject politics or share your personal beliefs, just pick a few challenging books.  They don't have to be the classics, of a particular genre, etc.   The books just should be at a minimum level of difficulty commensurate with the year in school and level of class you teach.  [/quote]
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Interesting you think I’m a big enough bozo to be like “sure you can read The Boxcar Children” in 10th grade. Again, there is NO WAY for anyone to glean an entire pedagogy from this one thread. Obviously the kids would have to propose a title, why they selected it, and I would have veto power if it were inappropriate (Twilight, 50 Shades of Gray) or way below grade level or like 50 pages long.

The anti teacher sentiment that is replete across the rest of DCUM makes tons of sense now though. You guys really do think we are idiots! It’s a wonder you send your kids to school at all since you can do it so much better.
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You make no sense.  You are a horrible teacher.  You are, in fact, a big "bozo."  So you magically are going to have enough time in your class to let them all submit a written proposal of what book they would like, and why they selected and how it relates to your given topic... And you will grade and return and veto and somehow they will also have researched the books on their own and have access to them?

I still do not understand how you are possibly addressing the standards for your curriculum.  Not sure if you're VA or MD or what, but we have to read Their Eyes Were Watching God, it's almost always on the AP test.  We have to read the Federalist papers.  We have a slew of things we MUST read.  
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