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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So now you're hating on Japan?  Isn't that an anti-liberal measure?[/quote]

[b]Read the articles and try to engage intelligently, tx. [/b] [/quote]

So here's the main point from the NPR article:

[quote]Lawmakers also passed a measure in December that will allow more foreign workers to enter the country, for longer periods of time and, in some cases, with a path toward attaining Japanese citizenship.[/quote]

But apparently, xenophobia is posing a problem.

So here's where I'm confused by neo liberals.  When people arrive here, we bend over backward to respect their culture, right?  So why should anyone bash Japan's culture?  their country, their business, correct?

Based on history - with immigrants coming from South and Central America - I don't think xenophobia really factors into the mix.   Look at the growth, according to Pew.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/18/how-the-u-s-hispanic-population-is-changing/

[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FT_17.09.18_Hispanics_USHispanicpop.png[/img]

While growth is slowing down among Hispanics, general immigration growth is still expected among foreign-born - https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/03/09/u-s-immigrant-population-projected-to-rise-even-as-share-falls-among-hispanics-asians/

[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/FT_15.03.05_foreignBornLine.png[/img]

I fail to see why OP has posted such an ALARMING message.  lol

Perhaps you need to engage intelligently, my friend.  TX

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I appreciate that you posted actual research, I really do.

But, I'm not sure how it relates to immigration policy?  Those charts seem to support what I am saying - that population growth (which is needed) is currently coming from immigrants to the US.

As for "bashing Japanese culture" -- I'm not doing that.  Japan is just the best example of what happens when a 1st world country has restrictive immigration policies plus a tradition of xenophobia. [/quote]

Here's the original post:

[quote]For all those who rail against "illegals" -- [b]do you really want us to end up like Japan, with a super-aging population, and not enough workers to support the economy?[/b] And now that Japan is trying to get immigrants, the immigrants don't want to stay because of [b]xenophobia[/b].

Where exactly do you picture the US ending up if we don't maintain our level of immigration? What's your plan here? Do you want to be cared for by robots in your old age?

If you say "well, we should create a path for legal immigration at the level needed for the workforce, not illegal" ... that is basically the Democratic party platform. [/quote]

So our population is growing, not shrinking - and growing with immigrants.  Xenophobia, in our case, is the white person fearing the immigrant, right?  If immigrants grow in number, control shifts.

We are nowhere close to what Japan looks like.  Even if we restrict immigration, people have babies.  Hispanics outnumber all other minority groups in the "baby arena."  Blacks are second.  
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/births-by-raceethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D
2017 data

Using Japan as a comparison isn't a good analogy.  We will never reach those levels of xenophobia, as we are not one race or one culture.  And even if whites dominated the scene (and may continue to do so for a bit longer), you can't lump all whites into one cultural category.

I'm for legal immigration with easier pathways toward citizenship.  That's my stance.  If that's a conservative slant, so be it.  I'm not critical of race or culture, as I'm first gen.  However, we need to control who enters, as we simply cannot keep working in crisis mode.  [/quote]

Sure, regularize immigration. My point is that the anti-immigrant people around here seem to be more focused on deporting all illegal immigrants and stopping all entries.  If that happens, we no longer have enough people.  That position, I would argue, is solely one that is fueled by being anti-immigrant, not by rationally seeking out policy solutions.

As for "crisis mode" ... the crisis is largely created by Trump's propaganda.  The long-term trend is for border arrests going down:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44319094

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oh and also:  as for your graph showing Hispanic and black birth rates - it's still not enough.  Even our notedly non-liberal friends on the WSJ editorial page agree:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-the-united-states-needs-more-immigrants

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