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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]University of Vermont especially for a sporty outdoorsy kid[/quote]

Way too pricy[/quote]

Our DC was offered substantial merit aid that made it slightly less/on par with in-state tuition at UVA/W&M. ( DC didn't go, but was tempted).

The OOS publics we visited:

UVM: Great for environmental sciences, beautiful campus, Burlington is a nice town.

We have family in Wisconsin, so we combined  family trips with a bunch of midwest visits over two different summers:

UW-Madison-- Madison seemed like a vibrant but manageable town--DC was a tad turned off by the students--didn't seem that academically/culturally engaged. I think those things are often flukes and DC is in a somewhat "judgy" phase. But I could kind of see what she meant--the students mainly talked about food and got excited about food.  It was a little weird.  Like in a student panel people would ask about programs and it would inevitably also somehow land on students talking about ice cream and cheese.  And then the tour guide talked a lot about food.  And the student DC shadowed a class with. It felt we were in a skit where everyone we encountered told us where to find the best ice cream and the joys of "squeaky cheese."

Indiana U-Bloomington  -- DC was an absolute "no" on the idea of Indiana in the abstract, but ended up loving this school. I think there was something about driving through the empty, flat lands and then coming into this beautiful, rolling hill campus area with a festive college town atmosphere that clicked.  Students and faculty were welcoming.  DC did have a slightly weirded out feeling by midwestern friendliness ("Is this place like a cult?")--and it seemed amplified in Bloomington.

Uof Illinois (C-Urbana)This was too remote/huge/frat-oriented for DC.  And flat.  DC was really drawn to a few of the faculty, but not enough to overcome the vibe. But we drove down there and it's seriously through a ton of exurbs and then cornfields to get there.  And then you're in a sort of rundown city for part of it and then frat house rows.  I can look past these things and focus on the school, but found DC was really impacted.

In general, I recommend highly doing a department specific meeting when visiting because the overall presentations at these big schools are kind of bland and it's easy for kids to focus on trivial things like a flat landscape, too much food talk, cult-like friendliness.  Also, weed out places via on-line research.

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