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Who careas? It’s not like bar applications are a selective process and they can only admit so many so she got some kind of edge identifying as American Indian. This is truly a situation where it didn’t help or hurt her, it just was. If anything, this substantiates to me that she really did identify as American Indian if she’s using it in contexts where it doesn’t matter.

Oh don't be dense. Elizabeth Warren is obviously a white woman and obviously identifies as such. Even if she heard that she had a great great great grandparent that was Native American everyone in her family is white. There's no way she really saw herself as Native American. What she did is really quite galling. It's the kind of thing that people make jokes about doing, but no one actually has the nerve to do.

+100 
This.

+ one million

I would consider that it was 1986 and maybe this was some kind of a "thing", but my son is adopted and could definitely be considered a different race/ethnicity (as in it's physically obvious without a DNA test and he was born in another country). He has always self identified as white because he was raised in the white culture. His DNA would show otherwise to a much greater degree than Warren's did.

And this kind of dragging people through the mud for how they identified decades ago concerns me a bit. Your ds identifies this way now, but he could change his mind in the future. Or [b]he could be criticized by people who claim he was turning his back on his heritage. [/b]I have multiracial kids and I see how easily this could happen to them. I think once we police how people self-identify it is a dangerous.[quote]

PP here. His heritage is white English speaking American.  Cultural heritage is what defines us.  Once in a while I run into people who ask if he speaks the language of his birth country.  They somehow think a baby will speak that language through its DNA.  So weird.   I don't think anyone would have criticized Warren for identifying as white or would have said she had turned her back on her Native American culture.  Anyone who says those things does not understand how culture affects identity.  You don't just "feel Native American" somehow.  
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I am sure you have researched this because of your adoption, but Korean adoptees who are adults now have conflicting thoughts on your statement. It is not as straightforward and while some interracial adoptees would agree with you, others would not. My kids are not actually adopted - they have a grandparent of another race & culture.  [/quote]

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