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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit. [/quote]

I'm not sure why you find this frustrating.  The Ivies (not Ivy's, btw) recognize that, generally speaking, it is much more difficult and takes much more dedication/hard work to become an elite athlete than to be "well rounded."  I can also guarantee you that recruited athletes at Ivies are "bright," just like your DS.  I would think (as many others, I'm sure) that Ivies would rather have a student who was able to become an elite athlete while also succeeding in school than a student who may have had slightly better stats with run-of-the mill ECs.  Honestly, I think this is a no brainer.  [/quote]

+1  Very well said, PP.  [/quote]

I disagree with this.  To a significant extent, the scholarship athletes are genetically gifted for the sport.  It isn't only dedication and hardworking.  There are plenty of kids that put in the same hours that aren't getting scholarships/entry into elite schools.[/quote]

But the argument here is about whether the academic bar is lower for athletes. [b]These kids manage to train for hours a day AND get really high GPAs[/b]. Maybe genetics and household income helped with the athleticism, but genetics and household income are also strongly correlated with academic success. Anyway, [b]my kid got into a top ivy with national-level success in one of the arts plus great stats[/b], and the area athletic recruits to the same ivy came from the Blair magnet, TJ and Sidwell. [/quote]

Right on, PP.  This is called multi-dimensionality in gifted speak.  It applies to scholars who are athletes and who are in the arts.  To put it another way, these students are multi-dimensional in their giftedness.[/quote]

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