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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like the christmas thing makes not wanting to go slightly more reasonable but the fact that she won't let you take the toddler removes ALL understanding and moral high ground from her position IMO.

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OP hasn't said why she won't but she could have very legitimate reasons for not wanting this.  For example, they could be completely incompetent at watching a toddler.  Just recently I was out at a museum with my father and my two kids.  One kid wanted to see a different exhibit so we agreed I'd go with him and my dad stayed with the other.  Well, my dad lost him -- he just wandered off without my dad noticing (he said he just looked down at his phone for a second!).  If you are not used to taking care of toddlers, which is the case for many grandparents who don't live nearby and who haven't had to watch toddlers since their kids grew up, you forget how careful you need to be.  Could be a reason like this.  [/quote]

Your kid is still alive. Don't infantilize fathers.[/quote]

I'm talking about grandparents whose toddler-watching skills may be a little rusty.  The father in this case will be busy being best man in the wedding.[/quote]

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